Wow, people are real jerks about watching cutscenes.

[Lurkios]

I would have preferred to watch all the cutscenes the first time I ran CM/TP as well - but the other 7 folks in my group didn't seem interested so I skipped to keep from needlessly inconveniencing them. Now, a few dozen runs in and wanting for more tombstones, I fully understand why they didn't want to watch those cutscenes again - or wait 5 minutes at the entrance and exit to every room.

Might try advertising for cutscene runs the way folks advertise for speedruns, otherwise you're likely to get left out of the fights and miss a few of the scenes anyway.

[Feyniphia]

I just watched them the first time too, as healer. Was awesoime to watch them. Next runs, I skip them, they are quite long. :/

[Bluezero]

My first Prae run was through DF, and I watched every cutscene. They moved ahead, started boss fights without me, etc. Not a single f*** was given by me.

[Techro]

I completely agree with OP. The problem is that most of the people in queue for CM PRT are doing it for farm. Which is dumb since you can run WP for the same amount of tomes now and its a lot faster. The problem that arises here is that, it took me 2-3 days to actually get a Q to pop for CM. When it did they were doing everything so fast that cutscenes were popping while we were fighting things. After i watched a couple of CSs people started to tell me that if I dont skip them they will leave me behind and start boss fights without me. I told them it was my first time and I wanted to watch the CSs, they told me to "Watch at inn". So it means that if you want to really be part of the end of the game, you will need to do it with an FC that is willing to wait. < none of this is actually good, and it is terrible for the community. I hate to do this because i don't like comparing past with present BUT, the FFXI community was waaaay better than this. Where did they go?

[Blackweaver]

Well like I said earlier, no one can tell anyone how to play their game. If it's my first time there, I am going to watch the cut scenes. And I did just that. Even telling the snob who complained that I didn't care and if I left, the run would end. At the last boss, said idiot decided to pull the boss. But nope, I continued to watch the cut scene. If they aren't going to wait, then they can simply deal with it till the cut scenes end. And when the cut scene did end, the guy who was complaining, was first to die, the boss was 25% so I picked up the healing and we beat it. And no, I did not rez the guy, I thanked the others for the group and went on my way.

[Lurkios]

Well like I said earlier, no one can tell anyone how to play their game. If it's my first time there, I am going to watch the cut scenes. And I did just that. Even telling the snob who complained that I didn't care and if I left, the run would end. At the last boss, said idiot decided to pull the boss. But nope, I continued to watch the cut scene. If they aren't going to wait, then they can simply deal with it till the cut scenes end. And when the cut scene did end, the guy who was complaining, was first to die, the boss was 25% so I picked up the healing and we beat it. And no, I did not rez the guy, I thanked the others for the group and went on my way.

So you decided to inconvenience 7 other people so you could do your own thing despite having queued as a team, and then when you finally got around to helping you refused to be a team player anyway. Luckily, they managed to drag you through it regardless.

Just saying. There's two sides to this.

[Reeth]

I never understood ruining a run for other people, especially now that you can get tomes faster in WP. If you really must have a speed run of Prae or CM, then don't use the duty finder for it. Get a group of 8 fc members and do it that way. No need to ruin other people's fun.

[Klutz64]

So you decided to inconvenience 7 other people so you could do your own thing despite having queued as a team, and then when you finally got around to helping you refused to be a team player anyway. Luckily, they managed to drag you through it regardless.

Just saying. There's two sides to this.

On one hand, if the tank pulled the boss when the party wasn't ready (the party list clearly shows anyone watching a cutscene, then it's kind of an issue with the tank and not the player watching the cutscene. On the other hand, it is a utilitarian debate and honestly I wish they would have kept such cutscene heavy Main Scenario content as solo.

[Lurkios]

I never understood ruining a run for other people, especially now that you can get tomes faster in WP. If you really must have a speed run of Prae or CM, then don't use the duty finder for it. Get a group of 8 fc members and do it that way. No need to ruin other people's fun.

Have you tried running Prae or CM recently? I've not seen a run in the last dozen where more than 2 people weren't with Ifrit weapons and/or darklight gear. If 6 or 7 people want to move forward and only 1 or 2 want to watch the cutscenes, can it really be said that the supermajority is "ruining" it? Seems like it would be the other way around to me. Those 1 or 2 folks could grab an FC group to watch the cutscenes just as easily.

On one hand, if the tank pulled the boss when the party wasn't ready (the party list clearly shows anyone watching a cutscene, then it's kind of an issue with the tank and not the player watching the cutscene. On the other hand, it is a utilitarian debate and honestly I wish they would have kept such cutscene heavy Main Scenario content as solo.

Agreed on all points. An opening cutscene is fine, kinda cool even, in my opinion - and they're generally done about the time buffs have been handed out anyway. 2-5 minute cutscenes at the entrance and exit to every major area is more than folks can be expected to wait through.

[Gilthas]

So you decided to inconvenience 7 other people so you could do your own thing despite having queued as a team, and then when you finally got around to helping you refused to be a team player anyway. Luckily, they managed to drag you through it regardless.

Just saying. There's two sides to this.

Yeah, there's two sides, but the side you mentioned is simply ridiculous.

I've been leveling all classes and I constantly get people watching the long cutscene in Toto-Rak. I don't ***** at them to hurry up, I just wait patiently because I know that I also prefer to watch the cutscenes on my first time. This "inconveniencing the other 7 people" argument is utter crap. Its a storyline dungeon, first timers should be allowed to watch the cutscenes in peace.

If you don't want to be "inconvenienced" by people enjoying the game, then you're the one that should make his own group to run the dungeon.