New jobs upcoming, new tanks?

[OmegaSinX]

Tank classes have always been in short demand and its not because we don't have enough of them its because people do not like playing them

Its a community issue and not a dev problem.

something you have to live with

I for one perfer to tank than be a DD Class. As a Tank it, You are more in control of a battle outcome more than any other class. Tanks tend to be the default leader,which fits my personality because I like to lead. And finally, the role and responsibility is more rewarding to me than seeing those big numbers as a DD.

It's a tougher class to play than a DD but someone's gotta do it. When you have a Bad Tank or Healer, Everyone will notice. When you have a bad Damage Dealer... No one will notice or care unless your fighting things like Demon Wall.

[SorriorDragneel]

No, its not about me liking or not liking what he says, I just think he's abusing the fact he can post without restriction, and his use of sign everywhere make it very difficult to read for a non english native person.

That is why reading him is mentaly exhausting, bar the fact his argument are worthless because of the lack of logic, I.E make a job using a great sword or a great katana tank, when you see the current unbalance of WAR already.

No a DPS tank IS doable if done right..Remember this game DID just launch it won't be flawless by ANY means. In fact this is THE most polished release MMO i have seen and i have seen ALOT of MMOs on release.

[saber_alter]

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i think it's only original intent was to facilitate the fact that the raid is split up multiple times during the instance
i suppose what they could do to find use for these tanks is to make the boss fights trash-heavy. it isn't the best fix, but a tank's job is to soak up damage. and the rooms are most likely going to be massive.

i guess you could put one tank per a group for CT, prolly.

[Gardes]

No, its not about me liking or not liking what he says, I just think he's abusing the fact he can post without restriction, and his use of sign everywhere make it very difficult to read for a non english native person.

That is why reading him is mentaly exhausting, bar the fact his argument are worthless because of the lack of logic, I.E make a job using a great sword or a great katana tank, when you see the current unbalance of WAR already.

English is not my first language and I read it just fine. The bullet points make things easier to read. Maybe you should remove that eye patch and re-read it.

Also, what does a class's type of weapon wield have anything to do with its tanking ability? This is a numbers game and if the game hands me a class with a spoon as a weapon and is able to take damage as well as any other tank and hold threat well and lists it as a tank in the duty finder, it's a tank.

[TirionCrey]

So yeah don;t underestimate the FEEL as an important aspect.

Fair enough. Style and theme of the tanking class of course has impact on people wanting to play that class. What I was trying to say is, that people who "wanna" tank usually tank on some class, despite what style or theme they have, while people who don't wanna tank usually don't switch to a tanking class just cause the style and theme is something they like and if they switch to that class because of the theme and style, they usually do it in a more casual kind of way as in they do regular high lvl content, but not really "hardcore endgame/min~maxing" stuff on that class. I wasn't speaking for everyone, but experience shows that most of the time, people who prefer DPSing stay DPS, while people who prefer tanking stay Tank, no matter if there is a class/job that suits their style. And majority of people prefer to DPS^^

In your specific case it really seems like you are more of a person who doesn't mind tanking as long as the style and theme is more leaning towards "typical" DPS styles, while not neccesarilly being DPS (2 handed weapon, brute force etc.)

i think it's only original intent was to facilitate the fact that the raid is split up multiple times during the instance
i suppose what they could do to find use for these tanks is to make the boss fights trash-heavy. it isn't the best fix, but a tank's job is to soak up damage. and the rooms are most likely going to be massive.

i guess you could put one tank per a group for CT, prolly.

Yeah that's what I'm kinda afraid of. That they just throw in a bunch of trash to make 6 Tanks "neccesarry", cause it would be a really lazy attempt to make use of all of them xD
On the other hand it could always be that all the bosses where all 3 groups are together are gonna be like Vanilly 4 Horsemen in WoW That would be an awesome attempt of making good use of all of them

[Jubez187]

I think a Knight class could work for a tank. Stat breaks (from FFT) and AoE covers (as opposed to PLD's single) with some heavy CC could make a fun Tank/Off-tank based on CC/support/debuff.

Overall envisioning a higher risk/reward tank. Doesn't have great amounts of Enmity Increased skills; but if played correctly, could prove more useful than PLD and WAR

[Phreak]

I for one perfer to tank than be a DD Class. As a Tank it, You are more in control of a battle outcome more than any other class. Tanks tend to be the default leader,which fits my personality because I like to lead. And finally, the role and responsibility is more rewarding to me than seeing those big numbers as a DD.

It's a tougher class to play than a DD but someone's gotta do it. When you have a Bad Tank or Healer, Everyone will notice. When you have a bad Damage Dealer... No one will notice or care unless your fighting things like Demon Wall.

Cool story bro

[Phreak]

lack of logic, I.E make a job using a great sword or a great katana tank, when you see the current unbalance of WAR already.

Because weapon aesthetics is what is breaking WAR.

There are tanks from other games that tank perfectly find and use staves, great hammers, katanas, fists, or even paws so I don't see where you're trying to go with that comment, at all.

I think you are the one lacking in logic.

You should come out of that box of yours.

[Gandora]

No a DPS tank IS doable if done right..Remember this game DID just launch it won't be flawless by ANY means. In fact this is THE most polished release MMO i have seen and i have seen ALOT of MMOs on release.

No one said the opposite, thats why I used the word "current" in my phrase, which mean its not definite. Apply that to the game, it wouldn't be logic for SE to make a tank with a 2handed weapon when the one they already have is unbalanced & they don't know what do do with it.

[Gandora]

English is not my first language and I read it just fine. The bullet points make things easier to read. Maybe you should remove that eye patch and re-read it.

Also, what does a class's type of weapon wield have anything to do with its tanking ability?

Bolded part: lol or lol? I am happy you can understand him, really I am, for me he is just atempting to make ppl drown under a wall of text to win the argument, and yes his *** everywhere are annoying.

As long as the job abilities follow sure, look at FFXI Rune Fencer, can you tell me that people succesfuly used it as its main purpose? Up to september no one wanted a RUN to tank, why do you think it happened? (spoiler: lack of good abilities to fill that role) Even after they introduced the merits it still had no purpose for the new content added with SoA.

So now to make a DRK or SAM tank, really? When they could potentialy be as good as XI was. again, logic?