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  1. #141
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    Tupsi's Avatar
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    Up not down.... as is i don't use food if the chance of death exists, if i can die and have fod on i will use more of it. Expect food cost to double.
    Down. Higher demand with high supply won't automatically mean higher prices, especially with how people love to undercut everyone to the point of market crash. Usually prices go up when there's high demand but not enough supply so the few who can supply can make a killing.

    There's been a flood of Tome mats due to WP being a good source and I can promise you it didn't drive prices up. So if you see 230 stacks of Raptor Stew, it's not going to be high priced.
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  2. #142
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    Azran Hayat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruethryl View Post
    Come back when you're doing Coil.. it can make a huge difference in the later turns if you're using two-star HQ food.

    Personally I think this is a positive change and that the market will adjust accordingly based on it.
    Do some basic math and you will see 2 star HQ food is completely pointless with our stat levels right now.
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  3. #143
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    Larek Darkholme
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thane View Post
    I suppose ignorance is a good reason to think food has a negligible effect in battle. Right now, due to my lack of luck with Allagan pieces, I'm exactly 22 points below Accuracy cap on my SMN (and likewise, my HP isn't great, sitting at 4K solo). With HQ Stuffed Cabbages, I'm sitting perfectly on the Accuracy cap, plus I'm also gaining 13 Vitality, which is 188 HP for me. That, plus the tank Vitality buff puts me at a comfortable ~4350 HP. Considering the very real (and strict) health requirements for Turn 5, food can truly be the case of you either being ready for Turn 5 attempts, or not. Not to mention that Crit is arguably the best stat right now, so I get a nice boost of that.
    So the argument now is that food is good because its useful for the last turn of coil? 1/5th of a raid? The only part where it makes a notable difference in the whole game?
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  5. #145
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    Dorian Makai
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    Most of the FC's I know that run coil all use food. They don't buy a ton of food however due to wipes. Its the opposite. Because of wipes, they buy what's necessary. Usually a stack of ten per player. If they run out, they don't go back out to buy more. It'd be too expensive.

    Even in FFXI and WoW you had people saying using consumables are useless. While the rest of the endgame community ends up using it, leaving those who are too cheap to min/max to call the ladder all elitists. Regardless of what you might think, people do use food. If they don't, then all the people purchasing it in the purchase history ESPECIALLY on mondays must be buying it up to have BBQs. And its never the same person buying 'multiple' stacks either.
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  6. #146
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    Lumidus's Avatar
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    Lumina Saita
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    So the argument now is that food is good because its useful for the last turn of coil? 1/5th of a raid? The only part where it makes a notable difference in the whole game?
    Seriously dude? The stats are a nice bonus. Look at the stats they give. It's like eating 5 teir IV materia. If you're saying food is useless, Might as well be under geared. Ever do Keep in AF gear and non relic? It's a bit harder right? It's doable yes but do you want to keep going in like that? Then you get your DL and Relic and do it again. It goes much smoother and faster.

    I don't really use much food but more HP, hitting harder with more crits. MMMMM squeezing out those numbers..
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  7. #147
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    Fhorte Dakwhil
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    Dont see why this was done... while yes it costs a small amount of gil, theres no other buff that lasts past death, and a lot of them are a lot weaker than food buffs. Would have been a bit better if they had just made this a bonus of HQ foods or something.
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  8. #148
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    Sigman Sforziet
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    The average player is not using food, because it's not worth it.
    If you make food like Flasks in other popular mmos that will remain nameless then food goes from 'eh that's ok' to 'mandatory raid consumable, aka FLASK'

    See?
    MASSIVE influx of buying I predict cooks will finally actually make money.
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  9. #149
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    Schala Zeal
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteXX View Post
    Dont see why this was done... while yes it costs a small amount of gil, theres no other buff that lasts past death, and a lot of them are a lot weaker than food buffs. Would have been a bit better if they had just made this a bonus of HQ foods or something.
    I agree it should be a bonus of HQ foods. As it stands, NQ foods sold by NPCs are just as good for most purpose except for endgame stuff.
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  10. #150
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    It will make 2 star food worth crafting
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