Need advice: Titan HM

[Lumines]

I would at least replace 1 ring and the bracelet with DL, but you have enough HP to tank Titan. Remember, you can use food to give yourself the extra boost.

[Jaminos]

I rather not push my luck until I have a few more pieces of DL gear. Its honestly not that hard to knock out a hundred tomes. 45 minutes to an hour. I could have everything I need by Monday if I wanted to really grind out my dungeons. But I will at least finish my jewelry and gloves today I think.

[Zoomie]

I honestly suggest you do Wandering Palace instead of Castrum Meridianum

THIS.

There is no reason to ever do CM after getting the quest done. Both WP and AK give you 100 philo and 30/40 myth making them more lucrative than CM. Both WP and Ak can be done in 20-35 minutes with a competent group.

[juniglee]

Just summarizing the advice in this thread for you, which I agree with for the most parts.

1. Run Wanderer's Palace until you get your full Darklight set. The Kite Shield is nice, but not important - you can probably survive with the Level 44 Grand Company shield, I did mine with the Scorpion Shield (Level 44 Shield from Dzemael Darkhold).
2. Your full Darklight set should include: Heavy Darklight Armor (Head + Chest), Heavy Darklight Plate Belt, Heavy Darklight Gauntlet, Heavy Darklight Flanchard (Legs + Boots), Darklight Earrings of Fending, Darklight Choker of Fending, Darklight Bracelet of Fending, Darklight Ring of Fending, and Hoplite Ring. The Hoplite Ring can be acquired from Amdapor Keep. If you have enough Tomestone of Mythology, you can get the Hero's Band of Fending instead too. I did mine with the above set, using Hoplite Ring, but my gloves were Hoplite Gauntlets.
3. You should look at having a minimum of 5.3k or 5.4k HP before taking on Titan as a Paladin.
4. It might also be easier for you to go to Mor Dhona and join a Titan party there, rather than using the Duty Finder. It would probably be more organized, and an organized party of 1 tank, 5 dps, and 2 healers probably have the easiest time beating Titan - hence why you need to be adequately geared.
5. While you hopefully won't need to, but I suggest knowing Titan's attack patterns for Phase 5 (post-heart). Specifically, when he will use Weight of the Land. If you have more than 3 dead teammates, he will start including you as a target for Weight of the Land as well, so you should dodge it when you can to avoid piling stress on the healer - they'll have a hard enough time keeping you alive from Mountain Buster.

Titan is an enjoyable fight if you keep coming back to it. Good luck!

[zakalw3]

A few bits of advice.

- Only use DF for practise. Titan can be beaten with multiple tanks, but it's considerably harder.
- Learn the positioning: there are spots you can stand to make bomb avoidance easier. For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KrW2ppJ3_0
- Everything before p5 is easy for the tank to avoid. p5 is what you need to memorise so you know when to hit CDs for Mountain Buster.
- - - Titan will use the first mountain buster directly after heart phase.
- - - The p5 rotation is: Mountain Buster -> Stomp -> Plume -> Bombs With Landslide -> Mountain Buster -> Plume -> Rock -> Landslide. (Repeat)
- - - Don't worry about learning this all, just not the two moves before each Mountain Buster and use them to prepare yourself to hit your CDs.
- - - Make sure no one uses any move that adds the blind effect (Ruin II, for example) this is because you can use Flash + one CD to negate a lot of MB's damage.

Tanks have it easier than the others, but that's not to say you're role isn't important. If you can negate/mitigate as much damage as possible, it will make the fight a lot easier for your healers (who have the toughest time).

I beat Titan with Ifrit Sword and Full Darklight + HQ Amber Ring. I had 5300 VIT and it felt like /just/ enough during P5.

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I would go to Revenant's Toll and build your own /shout group. Asking to join as a PLD will take too long as /shout groups only need 1 tank and almost every group asking for members will have one.

Good luck, and be patient! You will probably wipe a lot, and have to try for quite a few hours. When our group beat Titan we'd been trying for 3 hours, and had replaced 4 members during that time. It takes a core group willing to tough it out (unless of course you get extremely lucky with a slid group first time).

[juniglee]

Oh hey, my best bit of advice - do use Flash (if Paladin) from time to time. Or get a Summoner to drop Blind or Virus for you before Mountain Buster.

Nothing more satisfying than seeing "Mountain Buster DODGE"

[PetiteMalFleur]

For tank I really recommend you just get full, or nearly full DL both sides. The damage you take in the last phase is massive and difficult to heal through. It's very doable in your current gear set but it leaves very little room for error, on both your part and your healers. The difference in ease of healing someone in full DL versus partial is night and day.

There is also the issue of threat. Your WHM will be spamming medica/medica 2 during tumults and a well geared healer will struggle to not steal hate. The enmity you have in full DL will help tremendously in keeping Titan off the healers.

Save your cooldowns for after the heart is broken. Immediately after landslide he will do mountain buster which deals about 3.5k HP damage. Find a video to tell you where to stand to avoid bombs. Learn his rotation so you know what to expect. Have your healers use virus to mitigate damage from mountain buster and tumults.

Good luck in completing your relic quest!

[TaneshimaPopura]

Really you dont need 5.1k HP to do HM Titan I did it with 4.7k, you don't need full DLs...

I did it with quest AF helm and Hoplites, Darklight Macu and Kite.

All you need to do is learn your rotate your CD properly, Flash before Rock Buster if gets dodged hurray keep your CD cause Mountain Buster is up next. Pop only 1 CD will effectively make Mountain Buster only hit for 2.5k. Only use Hallowed Ground if your healer can't get you up to 4k hp after the Rock Buster. And if all fails there is as many recommended stuff to reduce damage like Virus and Rain of Death. Time to quit being a mp sponge and learn to mitigate damage, there are tonnes of Paladin's out there who don't spam Scorn of Hate and Spirits Within when there is no AoE or Silence requirement when the skill is off the GCD so threat is not an issue.

Though I haven'y gotten my Conjurer to 34, Stoneskin helps alot cause it prevent cast cancel you can cast back to back Stoneskins to totally make Titan look like a joke.

[Xbuzz]

If you're doing titan with 4.7k hp you're being carried. I don't understand why people want to even do titan with such low ilvl gear. You're better off spending the time you would wiping going to WP to get darklight gear which will have alot more of an effect on your tanking capability than relic.

If you're in an FC run, then anything goes, you can do it naked for all anyone cares, but joining DF with less than full darklight (for any class), you're just leeching. I've only just started doing titan with DF for practice and I waited until I had full DF, simply because a smart tank gears smart. It's alot easier to get full darklight than to spend time wiping needlessly on titan, and if someone joins titan with 4.7k hp with duty finder, then that means they don't have the sense to know how to gear properly and are just looking to be carried.

The fact is, using DF which gives you 2 tanks, titan is a very hard encounter. Add into it you're doing it in a team that has no voice coms and alot may be new to the encounter, it's literally stupid to do it in anything other than full or close to full DF. You're just wasting your time, and everyone elses.

[TaneshimaPopura]

It's the same as people telling me you need Full DLs and Relic +1 to clear Baha 1/2. Wipe relentlessly? I wiped on HM titan not because I died it's cause people can't kill the heart out of the 8 attempts 2 times managed to get pass heart and got it at the 2nd attempt, 1st one was cause healer died from Weight of the Land. On DF with 2 link Shell DPS friends, him and me needing kills for Relic.

That said, I suppose the average skill level of Japanese players is better than Western crowd. Though I'd give it to Western folks when it comes peak level skill. I've done Hardmodes in WoW, theorycrafted and if that all means shit to you. I have cleared Bahamut 4 with PuGs. Tanked Titan HM with 5.8k HP as warrior on top of 4.7k Paladin while you still cry that Titan HM is a "Very Hard" encounter... Smart tanks use their CDs and skill to get them through encounter, not waiting gears to "carry" them through content. Whats the point of going into Bahamut with full Myth gears?