Any FC Selling Allagan armor pieces?

[Ri_ri]

Because it makes BAD PLAYERS! And we all have to deal with them. I see so many +1 relic people that are the worst derp players. You know who they are, they only have the +1 and zero DL... Yeah its his gil, but I seriously call into question him earning it. Players who buy runs = people who cant play worth a damn or people who buy gil.

lol DL. Running CM all day, so pro.

[NeoAmon]

Half or more of ffxiv players already bought their relic runs why ppl are mad about buying allgan armor if ur worried about unskilled players then dont use DF and run with your FC and i dont mind paying 2mil for a piece if thats the price ppl gonna sell it for

I think SE needs another wealth division by 100 so the likes of you stop turning the game into gold buyers heaven. You may not have ever bought gold but if FCs started selling Coil for 2m per drop then the gold selling business will be booming.

[Nullie]

lol DL. Running CM all day, so pro.

Exactly.

Or it could be people leveling an alt class they don't have any darklight for, but play with people good enough to beat titan. Some of the people I play with have relics on all their classes. Doesn't mean they have to get all darklight for them too.

[LovelessG]

Half or more of ffxiv players already bought their relic runs why ppl are mad about buying allgan armor if ur worried about unskilled players then dont use DF and run with your FC and i dont mind paying 2mil for a piece if thats the price ppl gonna sell it for

I think those players are pathetic too mind you. If you are just going to buy everything whats the point. You may as well go play a true pay to win type game. I'm sorry bro but the fact that people are paying for their titan runs and now trying to buy allagan pieces just baffels me. You are defeating the purpose of an MMO, and its just truely pathetic. Pretty much lets me know you like to go about the easy way of aquiring things without having to work hard for it.

[Lozzlescotch]

You are defeating the purpose of an MMO, and its just truely pathetic. Pretty much lets me know you like to go about the easy way of aquiring things without having to work hard for it.

I'm still trying to figure out why you and so many other people here care so much when it has zero impact on you. Yea you might not agree with it and it's not something that you or I would do, but it's his gil and he can spend however he damn well pleases, within acceptable boundaries of the games(not breaking any ToS rules) which he isn't. If he's willing to pay and a FC is willing to carry, why are you getting your panties in such a bunch over it? What I find pathetic is your bitching about his choices which again, have no impact on you or what you do.

[LovelessG]

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But it does impact you. Think about it if he is paying an FC to CARRY him through everything. How in the hell is he ever really ever learning the fight. You learn best by repition and from dying and trying again, but if you get ran through once and got your piece then you never really learned anything. Then this decked out person who had FC's carry him through everything gets in a real group and just continues to screw up, and slow us down since he never really took the time to actually go by the trial and error of learning things. I don't know where people get this notion that ones choices or actions never effect others. Its thoughts like that as to why we have such a screwed up society now.

[Noahlimits]

But it does impact you.

Not that I endorse people being carried, but who is to say he'll EVER do coil again or even want to? It doesn't seem like he cares to or even wants to do coil for the difficulty or hardness of the battle, he just wants the gear to look pretty. If he never tries an 'extreme' or 'high difficulty' dungeon, how would that effect you?

You're assuming after getting the said gear he'll suddenly start trying to do coil (would would defeat the whole purpose of him buying the gear in the first place).

TLDR: He doesn't need to learn the mechanics of the fight if he never plans on doing it again after buying his gear run.

[juniglee]

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Another thing as well is the social impact it will have on that server's community. What happens when one group of people start selling Coil runs? Inevitably, more and more Coil run sellers will pop up too. I think it's bad enough that every person in Mor Dhona and their mother on my server are selling Titan runs, or even a full Relic package, simply because they want a quick buck.

People see one group doing a get rich quick scheme, they're most indefinitely going to do it themselves too. As others have said, why bother playing the content when you can just pay for it and get carried through it? Why are you even playing a game, when you're not even going to enjoy its core mechanics?

It's an ethical point of view, but if it doesn't affect you, it doesn't affect you. I personally don't think selling Coil runs will have as much impact as selling Titan runs, in terms of increasing the pool of bad but geared players to pick from, but altogether, it will affect the society.

I will also have to point out that the community's rather elitist requirement for simple dungeons like AK and WP are also a key factor in why people even buy runs. Can't get in a party because no Relic? No problem - go and buy a run, so you can satisfy some randoms on the Internet who demand that dungeons be cleared in 10 minutes or less. What's next? Will they ask you to be decked out in full Allagan for AK/WP too?

[Lozzlescotch]

That is a totally different problem though. Which I find hilarious. They want at least full DL with Relic for WP/AK...or worse, Relic for Titan/Garuda HM.

OT, I still don't see a problem with it. I wouldn't do it but I think this whole "but it impacts you in the long run!" and this "social" impact you speak of are overly exaggerated and negligible at best. TLDR, it's not that deep or serious, let him blow his money how he wants.(which he clearly has no interest in actually doing the content, he just wants to look badass while doing his crafting, which OK in my book)

[Dazd]

If you can't do endgame to get the pieces in the first place why would you buy them when you won't be using them?