Crafting 100% Success 100% HQ 2 Star Items

[Whitefall]

@Crush
Aphraell's skill rotation is obviously better than my recommended skill rotation but it requires to many high lvl cross class skills. My guide is not really for the best skill rotation, I also have my own rotation w/ other lvl 50 skills that guarantees me an HQ w/ all NQ mats. I'm just minimizing the number of high lvl cross class skills and materia setup that is needed to craft a guaranteed HQ 2 Star item. You should probably make a new thread for the best skill rotation.

[StouterTaru]

We have a winner for a mathematically sure bet.

Aphrael Method will work with all normal qualities @ 370cp and 340 Control. I just calculated the necessary control through trial and error.

You're comparing apples and oranges here. 370 CP (really 359 because Ingenuity II gives you nothing over Ingenuity if it still takes 3 Careful Synthesis II, and SH2 is not needed over SH) vs 348 CP. Swap that 11 CP meld for 9 control, and they're basically the same. So it's a matter of what is easier to get, 359 CP/340 Control, or 348 CP/349 Control.

Innovation takes out the advantage that WN gave over Manipulation if you are under the guaranteed levels; having an extra step to hit Good for BB. You have 2 steps where you get more from BB under Good condition with Mani, without Innovation you have 3 steps with WN. GS Good is less than GS+ING+INNO Normal.

You still have an extra step for an Excellent, but that >1% chance isn't worth factoring in.

[Crush3r07]

You guys are right I didn't think of peoples pockets when considering methods. When it comes to me I spent a couple million gil getting all the tradecrafts up to 50. I'm a non legacy player. Putting in so much time and effort I better have a method that guarantees success and leaves nothing to chance. Those were my only conditions. Money shouldn't be an issue if you have at least one tradecraft and gathering to 50. In my opinion you need to spend money to make money. Most people I meet are very stingy or cheap. So opinions may vary when it comes to what is expensive or not.

My intentions were not to label any one method right or wrong. I wasn't trying to feed or ruin anyone's ego. I simply just wanted to mention a guranteed method of success for people like me where gil isn't an issue and are willing to overmeld wasting level 2/3 control, cp, or crafting materia.

@Crush
Aphraell's skill rotation is obviously better than my recommended skill rotation but it requires to many high lvl cross class skills. My guide is not really for the best skill rotation, I also have my own rotation w/ other lvl 50 skills that guarantees me an HQ w/ all NQ mats. I'm just minimizing the number of high lvl cross class skills and materia setup that is needed to craft a guaranteed HQ 2 Star item. You should probably make a new thread for the best skill rotation.

Your thread is Crafting 100% Success 100% HQ 2 Star Items. I came to this thread searching for a guranteed safe way to craft and I'm sure others come here under the same impression. Since you already created a guide I don't see why you wouldn't add the findings to your original post. It's not really off topic. It's just an alternative method and having diverse methods creates a pallet for people to choose from. You are helping those from a beginner crafting level to the professional. You can now have a set guide for anyone based off the number of tradecrafts they are willing to level, and how much they are willing to spend on melding.

[Accolades]

You cant guarantee 100% with hasty touch spams sorry cant do it.

[Aphraell]

Here's my adjusted/tweaked Macros from Page 1/3 for 100% HQ with NQ materials - Modified so you can use Macros still and stop any "Poor" conditions happening on Byregot's Blessing, reduced the overall CP cost by 11.(Sorry Bouillabaisse sellers.....) and also changed the requirement of a 50 BSM to a 15 BSM.

80 Durability item -100% HQ with all NQ Materials - Requires 340Craft, 340Control and 359CP(Use food)

Macro1
/ac "Comfort Zone" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Inner Quiet" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Waste Not" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Steady Hand II" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Basic Touch" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Basic Touch" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Basic Touch" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Basic Touch" <me>

Macro2
/ac "Basic Touch" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Great Strides" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Steady Hand" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Standard Touch" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Great Strides" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Ingenuity" <me>

IMPORTANT: If condition is Excellent use Macro4, if not continue with Macro3 - if you do Macro3 with an Excellent condition you won't get your 100% HQ.

Macro3
/ac "Innovation" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>

Macro4(Used only if condition is Excellent after Macro2)
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>

[Crush3r07]

Here's my adjusted/tweaked Macros from Page 1/3 for 100% HQ with NQ materials - Modified so you can use Macros still and stop any "Poor" conditions happening on Byregot's Blessing, reduced the overall CP cost by 11.(Sorry Bouillabaisse sellers.....) and also changed the requirement of a 50 BSM to a 15 BSM.

80 Durability item -100% HQ with all NQ Materials - Requires 340Craft, 340Control and 359CP(Use food)

Macro1
/ac "Comfort Zone" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Inner Quiet" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Waste Not" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Steady Hand II" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Basic Touch" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Basic Touch" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Basic Touch" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Basic Touch" <me>

Macro2
/ac "Basic Touch" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Great Strides" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Steady Hand" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Standard Touch" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Ingenuity" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Great Strides" <me>

IMPORTANT: If condition is Excellent use Macro4, if not continue with Macro3 - if you do Macro3 with an Excellent condition you won't get your 100% HQ.

Macro3
/ac "Innovation" <me>
/wait 1.8
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>

Macro4(Used only if condition is Excellent after Macro2)
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me>

All three synthesis need to be under Ingenuity for this to work.

Progression:
90
90
49
Total: 229/233

And that's at 347 Craft.

Can still work just have to switch Ingenuity with great strides in order of operations.

Nice just need HQ pea soup now.

[Whitefall]

You cant guarantee 100% with hasty touch spams sorry cant do it.

Haven't you read my note on 40 Durability Skill Rotation?

Skill Rotation for 40 Durability 2 Star Crafting:
Note: This skill rotation won't guarantee a 100% HQ. It needs luck w/ Hasty Touch and Good/Excellent Condition proc.

[Aphraell]

All three synthesis need to be under Ingenuity for this to work.

Progression:
90
90
49
Total: 229/233

And that's at 347 Craft.

Can still work just have to switch Ingenuity with great strides in order of operations.

Nice just need HQ pea soup now.

Changed Ingenuity order with Great Strides, thanks. I have higher craft and didn't notice it wouldn't work with lower.

[Vortok]

Macro1
/ac "Waste Not" <me>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <me>

Macro2
/ac "Great Strides" <me>
/ac "Steady Hand" <me>

Not sure how tight this is, but what about if you get Excellent Condition after Waste Not/the first Great Strides? Seems that you'd be activating Steady Hand on Excellent condition and subsequently have Poor for the Touch ability. The first one (Waste Not) likely doesn't matter too much. Any Good condition on a Touch throughout the craft will likely offset it. Or slightly higher control.

The second spot would most easily be dealt with by having 14 extra CP (don't always get to use Tricks after CZ/IQ at the start) for an Observe before Steady Hand (to activate Steady Hand on Poor and thus use Standard Touch on Normal).

Either one would be a pretty rare occurrence, stars align against you situation... but if we're talking 100% HQ chance might as well consider the worst case scenarios so we can be prepared for 'em.

[Crush3r07]

Not sure how tight this is, but what about if you get Excellent Condition after Waste Not/the first Great Strides? Seems that you'd be activating Steady Hand on Excellent condition and subsequently have Poor for the Touch ability. The first one (Waste Not) likely doesn't matter too much. Any Good condition on a Touch throughout the craft will likely offset it. Or slightly higher control.

The second spot would most easily be dealt with by having 14 extra CP (don't always get to use Tricks after CZ/IQ at the start) for an Observe before Steady Hand (to activate Steady Hand on Poor and thus use Standard Touch on Normal).

Either one would be a pretty rare occurrence, stars align against you situation... but if we're talking 100% HQ chance might as well consider the worst case scenarios so we can be prepared for 'em.

My countermeasure is to continue with rotation because more important than fixing poor condition is understanding that each step is crucial because of the limitations of the buffs. What I plan on doing is using a hasty touch and doing so will give you 18 extra cp. The next move I would use standard touch to make up for the loss in quality. It won't completely recover, but it will help. You could also wait for a good condition before using standard touch. Depending on food you use you may now have enough cp for Advanced Touch.