White Mage: You should DPS and here's why.

[Tzain]

I'm not sure of 1.33 - it could be as high as 1.8. You will have to do some experimenting. The other thing I would caution against is the fact that you are locking yourself in for 6-7 seconds to take this action. If you need to pop a heal in the interim, you will be limited by your macro firing off stuff that may no longer be ideal. I personally value flexibility over convenience, so I limit the macros I use to really just save space on my X-hotbar.

But, yes, that should work, as long as those /wait's are accurate. Dancing and Poking included - as /poke is NOT on the IGCD : D

Strangely, I didn't even need that much
/ac "cleric stance" <me>
/wait 1
/ac "aero II" <tt>
/wait 2
/ac "aero" <tt>
/wait 1
/ac "cleric stance" <me>

I used it all night and it worked perfectly every time.

[16bitBounty]

I do a lot of stance dancing. My opinions on Cleric stance are this. It's a risk if there are more than 2 enemies. If there are more than 2 sleep targets 3 and (4)

I will generally sleep target 3, drop a heal on the tank to put him back over 75%, swap cleric, blast away with stone II until tank gets below 45%, swap out of cleric stance, heal, swap back into cleric stance, spam stone II. As long as the tank isn't in immediate danger of dying you should be doing damage. Even in cleric stance your regen is more than enough to heal any DPS characters. Your goal is the tank above 75% when the damage is incoming.


The only learning curve here is the cooldown on Cleric stance. The Cooldown starts when you ENTER cleric stance. This is why you make sure your tank isn't going to get molested in the short cooldown between popping cleric stance and the time you can remove cleric stance.


At the end of the day, if you aren't dpsing, you're playing a white mage wrong.

[Ehayte]

I used it all night and it worked perfectly every time.

I am shocked that /wait 2 worked between aeros...I thought the GCD was 2.5+ even with a buttload of skill speed.

Maybe a /wait line will just wait as long as is needed to fire off the next skill specified...that would be awesome but its not how I understood it.

Can you offer any more insight? i.e. how long did you have to mess around with this before it worked, or did it work on your first try plugging in those values, etc?

[LiadansWhisper]

I do a lot of stance dancing. My opinions on Cleric stance are this. It's a risk if there are more than 2 enemies. If there are more than 2 sleep targets 3 and (4)

I will generally sleep target 3, drop a heal on the tank to put him back over 75%, swap cleric, blast away with stone II until tank gets below 45%, swap out of cleric stance, heal, swap back into cleric stance, spam stone II. As long as the tank isn't in immediate danger of dying you should be doing damage. Even in cleric stance your regen is more than enough to heal any DPS characters. Your goal is the tank above 75% when the damage is incoming.


The only learning curve here is the cooldown on Cleric stance. The Cooldown starts when you ENTER cleric stance. This is why you make sure your tank isn't going to get molested in the short cooldown between popping cleric stance and the time you can remove cleric stance.


At the end of the day, if you aren't dpsing, you're playing a white mage wrong.

You realize that your logic breaks down when none of the mobs are sleepable?

[Psychosamm]

I think i'll just stick to healing and thorwing in aero's here and there, and the occassional Holy. I see no need for me, the HEALER to be doing two jobs. The DPS should be able to do their job without having the need to call on me. You don't see anyone asking the DPS help heal, if that ever happened you would be called a shitty healer. Not to mention having to deal with stealing hate from bad tanks, then getting bitched at for dpsing. I think i'll pass. If you want to go ahead and dps and heal go for it, though saying that all healers need to be dpsing is silly.

[Arcaloid]

No, WHM can do some dps if he/she want to make the run a bit faster, but we don't need to, and certainly not have to.

[Brises]

The healer will get bitched at whether they do or whether they don't. So just play how you want to.

[Darkoray]

I don't agree with "every healer should dps"

For me it come down to the situation. The party can change when and where I dps. A good tank and I will dps most fights. I'm a SCH so I have the advantage of a heal bot and even the boss fight in AK I dps.

End of the day it comes down to the individual player and if they are comfortable moving away from the primary job.

[Zanika]

Here's my opinion: A healers attack spells are meant for two things; fighting OUTSIDE of a party (soloing) and light support in a group. Yes, I'm one of the healers likely to just stand there when I'm not needed, but only because I take every percaution. Instead of burning MP on stone II, I sit by the sidelines, letting my mana recover. You never know when you're going to get stuck with a "bad" tank, or worse, someone disconnects durring a boss fight; and when that moment comes, your going to wish you had enough for that last cure spell. Shroud of Saints is good for mana recovery but it's long recast time makes in unreliable before lvl 45, and it won't always be enough.

At the end of the day, if you aren't dpsing, you're playing a white mage wrong.

A White Mages job, in a group, is to HEAL. An Areo spell every now and then is fine, and no one's going to complain about using Sleep. But if that isn't enough for you, go be a Black Mage.

[Iymala]

If a healer is not being lazy, and they are properly geared for the dungeon then, yes, they should be dpsing when ever they have the spare mana and time to do so between heals.

Are you REQUIRED to DPS... NO, but you are also not REQUIRED to be anymore than MEDIOCRE. If you do not play your class to it's full ability, yes, that means adding additional dps and utility when you are able, than you are no more than a mediocre player. This does not make you a "BAD" healer, but if you think you are Great... it is likely only in your own mind. Doing nothing but the very base ability of your class is far from greatness.

Everyone, dps, healers, tanks should all be looking for ways to improve their performance. DPS often contribute by damage reducing abilities, or damage increasing abilities, tanks do a hell of a lot more than just hold agro.... why should healers not do more than keep your group alive if they have the ability?

Do not get me wrong, there are times when I am feeling lazy and I don't dps while I am zoning out or watching a movie. That is because I am being lazy! It happens to the best of us, but when I am running in speed runs or even normal myth grinding groups.... you bet your ass I am dpsing. No one wants to be in their any longer than we have to when we still have to do it again 7 more times.

TLDR: If you are going to be lazy... own it. If you are not going to dps because your role says "healer" then own the fact that you are a mediocre player and stop calling yourself a good healer... because you are not. You are putting just enough effort forward to get the job done and that never got anyone a gold star.