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  1. #21
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    CurlyBruce's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ipkonfig View Post
    Everytime I see a WAR with +1 I cry. Not only is it pink.. but it has skillspeed... come on clearable turn 5!!
    This. So much this. Give me the crappiest looking Relic in existence for all I care, but for the love of christ give it Accuracy instead of Skill Speed.
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    I've seen and held meteorites. If that thing is carved full-form from one, it weighs several hundred pounds, if not over 1000. not to mention, meteorite metal is basically second only to wootz steel for badass metals to make things from, both for properties(elasticity WITH hardness, holds an edge without shattering, and thanks to natural nickle deposits in the metal, it won't rust) and for rarity.

    So basically, it may not look the best, but it is certainly the most class signifying weapon, who else could even lift one off the ground but a true warrior?
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    I've seen and held meteorites. If that thing is carved full-form from one, it weighs several hundred pounds, if not over 1000. not to mention, meteorite metal is basically second only to wootz steel for badass metals to make things from, both for properties(elasticity WITH hardness, holds an edge without shattering, and thanks to natural nickle deposits in the metal, it won't rust) and for rarity.

    So basically, it may not look the best, but it is certainly the most class signifying weapon, who else could even lift one off the ground but a true warrior?
    Uhhh... whut? This explains it well. Meteorites, even those rare few that are nickel-iron meteorites, aren't as metallurgically sound as *real* iron and steel alloys that are man made, and, if you're talking about smelting out the impurities of meteoric iron so that it's *not* a terrible material, it just lost anything that might have made it weapon made of "meteoric iron". On top of that, meteoric iron isn't really appreciably heavier than a similarly sized piece of normal iron. The reason why it seems heavier is because pure iron is *really* heavy; steel is lighter (and with good reason).

    The only reason that the phrase "meteoric iron" has gained the connotation for amaze-itude is because it's got mystical and mythological overtones. Meteorites come from the sky in a blaze of glory so they're attached to the gods/supernatural since humans couldn't fly until recently. It's an awesome origin story for a legendary weapon, but, in all honesty, it would make a terrible weapon, just like a bat made from the wood of an oak split by a bolt of lightning.

    There's a reason that the most awesome swords ever made were made with Damascus/Wootz Steel: it's a super strong, super refined alloy. There's also a reason why only early ironworking was done with meteoric materials rather than smelted iron: when people learned to refine metals, they learned to make them stronger as well as more common.
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  4. #24
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    War relic is one of my favorite relics I have been pushing my brother to get it xD. With the AF2 top its super sexy.

    Be glad it isn't the SCH relic. A plain white binder looking book. Its plain but kind of classy.
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    "Only the victors are allowed to live. This world is merciless like that."-Mikasa Ackerman
    "Wouldn't it be good to forget everything even if it's just for tonight? Indulge in pleasure...breathe a sweet poison deep into your lungs."
    "Hatred and sorrow are power. They are yours to control. All you have to do is turn them into strength and use that strength to move forward." ~Sebastian Michaelis

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    Half the power of an axe comes form sheer weight on impact, like a sharp hammer. so a heavier axe is a better axe within reason. and that edge has been meticulously cared for, possibly reinforced with a better material for cutting.

    I think I may have confused that meteorite metal for Damascus steel, which is just a refinement of wootz steel. Made in Damascus. Since lost to time, but there are some who are working to find it again. Who knows, maybe we can all go on a relic reborn quest IRL soon lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    Half the power of an axe comes form sheer weight on impact, like a sharp hammer. so a heavier axe is a better axe within reason. and that edge has been meticulously cared for, possibly reinforced with a better material for cutting.
    It's not just weight. It's where the center of balance is. Because axes are meant to be horribly lopsided and focus upon using centripetal force to cause a massive blow, the closer to the head that the center of balance is, the better. The best you could hope for is to have the center of balance *right behind* the point of impact (the center of the crescent). It's for this reason that you *wouldn't* want to have the shaft made out of metal: it would pull the center of balance away from the head, decreasing the force of your blows.

    Of course, if you really wanted to get wonky, you could design a weapon that is hollow but filled with mercury. Since the mercury would flow, while you are holding it steady, the mercury would flow to the capstone on the shaft, causing the weight to be more centrally balanced; while you are swinging it, the mercury would flow to the head, causing weight to shift to the outside, allowing for heavier blows. For that, you'd actually want the shaft to be made of metal since wood would cause the mercury to seep.
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    Matter of taste tbh..

    I for one find the Garuda weapons ugly, my goodness: weapons with wings..

    I love the WAR axe, just an axe you'd see some legend swing with. I do agree with SE's lazyness btw, their gear design is horrifying, but that's another discussion I guess..
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
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    I love your walls of text Kitru. They make me happy.



    I don't like the pink glow. It makes me sad.




    Why not have the glow match the Job's Soul Crystal coloration?


    edit: Why not have the glow of every Job's Relic +1 match their Soul Crystal for that matter...
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  9. #29
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    ooohhh, Damascus steel frame, mercury weighting system, and depleted uranium weights on the head... brb, drooling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illya View Post
    Garuda's Scream looks a million times better than Bravura.
    how can you think pony princess axe looks better than bravura

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    I will concur that it seems a bit small. I like the overall look of it, but I just kinda wish it were *bigger*. The thing should be big enough to be intimidating, not smaller than most axes you'll find while leveling.
    probably has a lot to do with being mi'qote

    namasu has one and it looks like a butterknife compared to mine lol
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