WAR Correct Stat build.

[DartFx]

I was running 1Str:2Dex for the longest time. It worked out pretty good, I was definitely able to keep hate without even losing it for more than a second and parried about 1/4 attacks?... I decided to try something new today, Full Vit.. Tanking wise; it was better for the healer. However, I did notice I was losing hate much more often and much longer, another problem I saw was my self heals, bloodbath(Which ik is useless atm, but it serves a purpose in WP when tanking 7+ adds) significantly went down, IB crits went down about... 700?

So, knowing that this has been posted countless times, I dare ask, if theres any experienced WARs out there ( Binding Coils ), Please tell me, would I be better off going Full Vit, Full Str, 1Str:2vit or 2str:1vit?

Thanks in advance.

[Eightbit]

Looking at your gear and current stats you could probably get away with strength/vitality mix or pure strength as long as you are happy farming WP/AK. But I'd say for anything harder pure vitality is a very good option. Granted part of the issue may be you have to adopt your play style a hair bit. Also it might be worth while if hate regain is an issue to level up paladin to 22 and get provoke. That is my personal opinion on the issue anyways.

[DartFx]

Looking at your gear and current stats you could probably get away with strength/vitality mix or pure strength as long as you are happy farming WP/AK. But I'd say for anything harder pure vitality is a very good option. Granted part of the issue may be you have to adopt you play style a hair bit. Also it might be worth while if hate regain is an issue to level up paladin to 22 and get provoke. That is my personal opinion on the issue anyways.

Yes, you're right, it was mostly play style problems, It takes 1 more set of OP/Flash for me to be able to keep hate how I used to. I'm considering 1str:2vit for WP/AK farming and depending on how that fairs for me at coils, I might or might not switch to full vit. Thanks for your opinion.

[Marxam]

Honestly unless you've hit the wall thresholds for each stat I would say 10 points into str is the absolute minimum for any war. I myself am 2:1 str:vit. I also have relic+1 and full dl. I'm constantly hitting 1200 heals on my IB's with the occasional 1700+ crit. If you're past 6200 hp you already have enough and anymore is just insecurity on your ability to fully utilize your rotations to the max. Stick to the strength and as far as dex goes it seems to have a bigger effect on pld's as they have a shield. Str for wars increases the parry which you want. Btw I went in to coil with this set-up and had no problems until turn 4 lol.

[C-croft]

I went 25 DEX and 5 VIT. I have very little threat issues up to Garuda. Was rocking the Barbarians Bardiche for the longest time, no materia, and only recently put in some STR into my ring. Had some issues with relic and +1, but for the most part threat has always been solid. Perhaps your rotation is not as optimal in regards to building and maintaining threat. Not saying it is or isn't. Just that I rarely have issues. Something worth looking into possibly. It could also be my lucky 777 mp?

[rexie]

I went 25 DEX and 5 VIT. I have very little threat issues up to Garuda. Was rocking the Barbarians Bardiche for the longest time, no materia, and only recently put in some STR into my ring. Had some issues with relic and +1, but for the most part threat has always been solid. Perhaps your rotation is not as optimal in regards to building and maintaining threat. Not saying it is or isn't. Just that I rarely have issues. Something worth looking into possibly. It could also be my lucky 777 mp?

Going DEX is just plain wrong from every single possible aspect you can think of, and there is no single reason whatsoever to warrant having a single DEX point on you be it attributes or materia.

For the love of humanity & all tanks, do STR or VIT; at least you'll be doing something "sound".

[C-croft]

Going DEX is just plain wrong from every single possible aspect you can think of, and there is no single reason whatsoever to warrant having a single DEX point on you be it attributes or materia.

For the love of humanity & all tanks, do STR or VIT; at least you'll be doing something "sound".

For all you know, maybe I was testing something for DEX. Maybe I was doing it because what I am challenging allows me to. I won't assume you or your character are experienced or not, but what makes you think I am not doing something sound? What testing have you done, or do you have some data to share?

Or maybe I did it for fun? Either way, threat is still not an issue.

[rexie]

It is not about threat.
You are not doing something sound because there has to be some logic to it, no?
Sure you could stack piety, with the purpose of...um... more flashes! but then again....right...
So what logic there is to having points to DEX? Higher block rate (when we don't have a shield) and parry (where you have a dedicated stat called "Parry" that gives higher return)?
If you bothered researching around, you'd find conclusive evidence backed up by statistics that even on PLD, a job that can benefit from both shield AND parry.. the returns from stacking DEX is really abysmal.
Moreover, if you bother looking at your gear, AF, AF2, allagan pieces for WAR.. do you see a single DEX there? Use a clue.

Debating STR vs. VIT makes more sense since this is the primary stats for WAR (if you have enough ACC, and stacking on parry as much).
Rather than a pity argument, have an open mind, listen, learn from others and move on.
I like your spirit of wanting to try things out; I really do, I wish more players like you rather than going by cookie-cutter solutions provided by others who most of the time haven't got a clue!
Having said that, please research, ask, listen, and then make a judgement rather than randomly trying out things where it not only wastes your time but others as well for trying something pointless.

[C-croft]

Debating STR vs. VIT makes more sense since this is the primary stats for WAR (if you have enough ACC, and stacking on parry as much).
Rather than a pity argument, have an open mind,listen, learn from others and move on.
I like your spirit of wanting to try things out; I really do, I wish more players like you rather than going by cookie-cutter solutions provided by others who most of the time haven't got a clue!
Having said that, please research, ask, listen, and then make a judgement rather than randomly trying out things where it not only wastes your time but others as well for trying something pointless.

I have asked in the past. All I got was 'lol no, research already done.' At the time nothing was done to see the effects of putting DEX on a WAR. Sure there is testing on DEX, for PLD, in Phase 3. Effectively no research on WAR and DEX that I could find at the time and was usually directed to Valk's testing. I must ask, since you sound as though you are in the know in regards to finding all this testing, where are do you go for testing results? It sounds like you have done some testing yourself before and not another cookie-cutter.

PS The op was complaining about threat after going from 1str:2dex to full VIT. I have no STR at all, yet never have issues with threat when I had similar gear. So yes, in the OP's case threat is a pertinent topic here.

[Seidaku]

I went 30 str myself, figure until I hit the 405 mark there is no wrong on that. Having large vit and hit point pools is nice but really not needed. We take bigger spike dmg but we will naturally have more vit and hps than a pally to compensate this. Am on turn 4 myself as well and can say that I have had 0 complaints from the healers so far.