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    Alu79's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoBoz View Post
    I always Succor before pull at "Demon Wall" boss.
    Succor make me feel like I'm playing easy mode of Demon Wall boss.

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    I think he didn't mean "Double Buff" but double amount of HP of the shield.

    btw
    Yes, it is the same buff but different amount of shield.

    Aldo 300 healing potency = 300 potency shield
    Succor 150 potency = 150 potency shield
    (actually the HP of the shield will be the same as the amount healed (also count overhealing)

    And both skills will replace the previous shield. (am I right? not 100% sure)

    Succor will bubble for the exact amount that it healed for, when it crits, the shield will still only match strength of the heal. 500heal/500shield - 1k crit heal/1k shield.
    Adlo will bubble for the exact amount healed for -unless- you crit, then the shield will also crit meaning that the shield will be DOUBLE the strength of the crit heal. 500 heal/500 shield - 1k crit heal/2k crit shield.

    Succor will never over write Adlo. Shields will never over write a stronger shield. Shields will never stack. Overhealing has no effect on shield power. Healing a full health target will still give them a shield for whatever the heal was even tho they were not healed.
    Preshielding tank with Adlo and group with Succor is doing it right~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alu79 View Post
    Succor will bubble for the exact amount that it healed for, when it crits, the shield will still only match strength of the heal. 500heal/500shield - 1k crit heal/1k shield.
    Adlo will bubble for the exact amount healed for -unless- you crit, then the shield will also crit meaning that the shield will be DOUBLE the strength of the crit heal. 500 heal/500 shield - 1k crit heal/2k crit shield.

    Succor will never over write Adlo. Shields will never over write a stronger shield.

    Thx for correcting me

    Now I don't have to worry about shield will overwriting each other. (Succor/Aldo)
    and if it's true that Aldo crit will x4 shield's hp, I'll looking forward to stack Crit in my gear.
    So Mind > Crit > Deter/Spell Speed/Piety, right?

    but how about if Aldo shield had 1k hp but it droped to 100hp, will new Aldo cast or Succor Shield replace the 100hp Shield?

    ps.hate to 1000 character per post restriction, but why I feel that other ppl's posts have more than 1000char ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoBoz View Post
    Thx for correcting me

    Now I don't have to worry about shield will overwriting each other. (Succor/Aldo)
    and if it's true that Aldo crit will x4 shield's hp, I'll looking forward to stack Crit in my gear.
    So Mind > Crit > Deter/Spell Speed/Piety, right?

    but how about if Aldo shield had 1k hp but it droped to 100hp, will new Aldo cast or Succor Shield replace the 100hp Shield?

    ps.hate to 1000 character per post restriction, but why I feel that other ppl's posts have more than 1000char ???
    Edit lets you ignore the character cap.
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    Scholar Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by BoBoz View Post
    Thx for correcting me

    Now I don't have to worry about shield will overwriting each other. (Succor/Aldo)
    and if it's true that Aldo crit will x4 shield's hp, I'll looking forward to stack Crit in my gear.
    So Mind > Crit > Deter/Spell Speed/Piety, right?

    but how about if Aldo shield had 1k hp but it droped to 100hp, will new Aldo cast or Succor Shield replace the 100hp Shield?

    ps.hate to 1000 character per post restriction, but why I feel that other ppl's posts have more than 1000char ???
    The stronger shield overwrites the weak shield. Succor can overwrite aqo but it rarly happens (equipped sch crits an succ over an unequipped sch´s aqo)
    As far as I recognized it the base shielding value depends which will overwrite and which not. e.g. I´ve seen noncrits overwrite noncrits if the heal was higher. Due to this crits will allmost allways overwrite noncrits.

    Crits are at a 1.5 multiplicator so crit aquo shields are at 3x higher not 4 times.

    Your statevaluation seems to be about right allthough I (personally) rate piety higher.
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    Last edited by Sinaloa; 01-09-2014 at 10:38 PM. Reason: 1000