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  1. #41
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    Xal's Avatar
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    Xal Shi'nax
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sterob View Post
    Seriously, people who didnt even touch coil yet qqing about how the game should be, namely Bard balance. They have limited understanding while being too vocal which force SE to blindly follow. It is like asking children to solve the recession/money debt crisis. You have a lot of reply but 99.99% are noise and useless.
    im on coil 5
    and bard op.
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  2. #42
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    Nooblet Gg
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I'm all for making bard more difficult to maximize dps.. but nerfing it when it's not ahead is pretty silly. Also I think adding decent silence options to other jobs wouldn't be a bad idea.

    Didn't they already say they are increasing melee dmg as well as plan
    to reduce the impact of disconnects.

    Pretty soon blm is getting nerfed, because it's too simple and too strong ST, AE, has infinite MP, can sprint whenever, is ranged, it's only weakness is having cast times.

    I'm all for small tweaks here and there, but I hate when nerfs and buffs happen simultaneously and result in things being more imbalanced than they were.
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  3. #43
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    Blowfin Jr
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 50
    I don't think anyone's mentioned that BRD get lower damage weapons to counter the fact they can shoot while moving. BRD also don't get big spike damage like other DD's. BRD also don't get a DPS Limit Break like other jobs. You maximise BRD DPS by keeping your DOT's up and working through your attack buffs. There's a fair amount involved in the rotation and when things get hectic it's not just a simple matter of running around and shooting, you need to be paying attention just like any other job. You also can't just be a silence bot in coil, you need to be actively DPS'ing as hard as you can between CD's.

    It's not OP, it's just pretty much required for coil with the silence rotation. For some reason SE chose to give Coil mobs abilities that can be silenced on a 2 BRD rotation. It doesn't make the job overpowered though...
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  4. #44
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    Vonleo Slanzar
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    Coeurl
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    Reaper Lv 90
    What people don't realize is that bard can stand far away and do max damage while moving while melee classes have to POSITION THEM SELVES to maximize their damage that's a big difference meaning you must go to the sides and behind the boss to use certain skills to do combos i swear if people can't even know the difference between bard and melee classes should just....i don't know...educate themselves before posting on subjects they have no understanding about.....
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  5. #45
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    Ceol Ashwin
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Seems like OP's a bit mad that SE made a vague statement that could be construed to mean they are slightly nerfing BRD.

    So apparently SE was following the ignorant masses when it decided to nerf BRD, but its decision to buff WAR is totally okay and listening to the end game community? It doesn't take someone in "end game" (however you want to define that) to see that BRD is slightly overpowered, and even if BRD was overpowered in everything but "end game", that doesn't mean it should be left as is.
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  6. #46
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    The One and only fight bard is slightly overpowered on is titan. And that's mainly for newer players, skilled dps of any class can do just as high as the best bards.

    So nerf based on one single fight? Ok
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  7. #47
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    Nooblet Gg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonleo View Post
    What people don't realize is that bard can stand far away and do max damage while moving while melee classes have to POSITION THEM SELVES to maximize their damage that's a big difference meaning you must go to the sides and behind the boss to use certain skills to do combos i swear if people can't even know the difference between bard and melee classes should just....i don't know...educate themselves before posting on subjects they have no understanding about.....
    Everyone realizes that... a lot also realize it's not that difficult play in melee, and a well played job can easily out perform bard on most every fight.
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  8. #48
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    Nooblet Gg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonleo View Post
    What people don't realize is that bard can stand far away and do max damage while moving while melee classes have to POSITION THEM SELVES to maximize their damage that's a big difference meaning you must go to the sides and behind the boss to use certain skills to do combos i swear if people can't even know the difference between bard and melee classes should just....i don't know...educate themselves before posting on subjects they have no understanding about.....
    Which actually isnt accurate, because max dmg requires brd to enter melee range.
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  9. #49
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    Risa Asakaze
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nooblet View Post
    Which actually isnt accurate, because max dmg requires brd to enter melee range.
    Completely false.
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  10. #50
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    Mrv Light
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by CatofNineTails View Post
    please post a link or quote of someone who has posted feedback that is specifically about endgame by someone who has not reached endgame and is not a "I would like this added to" because those are wish list posts like people wanting tombs to be dropped in more than one or two locations posted in threads.
    check literally any thread on the tank forums.

    "hey warriors are fine guys you just need to learn to play them, although I haven't tried titan yet I don't see why titan or coil would be any different than ifrit and garuda, and I had no problems tanking them in af!"
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