Tank Jobs' Opinion on Summoners Tanking

[Darksword]

Interesting that there's a lot of conflicting opinions on this.

[Teleniel]

There are a few times I find tank pets useful... Temple of Qarn bees are a good example. pretty much any content up to level 20 they make it easier on the healer, and still provide decent DPS.... but most of the time I don't need/want them tanking adds.

Now if you plan to pull something and run away from me with it.... you might want titan because after about 5~10 seconds i'm letting you keep it.

[Hachiko]

For anything that matters, your tank pet is useless.

For things that don't matter, you're slowing us down by not using a damage pet.

Titan is worthless in groups.

Oh really?

http://www.twitch.tv/lleuca/c/3072571

[Lemon8or]

Or you know focus the bees when they spawn so they don't get to do Final Sting? Summoners should have dots on boss already and can just use Bane to spread it to the bees to kill them quick enough. For Abjudicator, you can tank both the Sun Jurors and the boss. I haven't had any problem even when tanking at 35 on warrior. You can also tank the boss near the closer platform to the spawn spot to grab them as soon as they spawn and kill them on the platform. You can also help dpsing the Verges while tanking the boss, just make sure you have healer enter it with you since you can't heal yourself like warrior.
Personally, I haven't found Titan to be too helpful. I once ran AK with Titan tank, 3 DPS (SMN+MNK+BRD) and a healer but it's easy enough with 4 relic.

[CyanDvai]

The thing I find amusing, there was a thread a while back about 2 or 3 summoners using Titan to tank dungeons. Their comment was if they gave Titan about 5 seconds to generate hate they could then go all out and dps down the mobs.

My comment was that Titan was lucky to get 5 seconds before dps starts on the mob where as us PLD's and WAR's are lucky if we even get 2 seconds.

But I digress, I agree, if you have a tank you're better off with a dps pet, now if the tank goes down and you can pull him out to finish a fight, go for it.

[Myrhn]

Titan-egi is an awsome tank on the last bos of Praetorium.

[Nabian]

The thing I find amusing, there was a thread a while back about 2 or 3 summoners using Titan to tank dungeons. Their comment was if they gave Titan about 5 seconds to generate hate they could then go all out and dps down the mobs.

My comment was that Titan was lucky to get 5 seconds before dps starts on the mob where as us PLD's and WAR's are lucky if we even get 2 seconds.

But I digress, I agree, if you have a tank you're better off with a dps pet, now if the tank goes down and you can pull him out to finish a fight, go for it.

I still feel in this instance that it would be more beneficial if the tank dies if you have time to summon your pet then you probably have the time to swiftcast rez the tank and your better off.

[Nonlinear314]

Summoners are the WoW Huntards of FFXIV. A few are good but most are really bad, really really bad, especially the ones that go through DF.

Summoner is there to DPS not there tank. Tank pets just lower DPS so don't use them. If DPS can't get the bees down then Titan will only make that worse, if DPS can't kill bees before Final Sting then they are simply bad. That is the point of the Final Sting mechanic, sacrificing Titan is just a crutch for bad DPS.

Honestly I wish summoners would just go away.

~0~

On Adjudicator, you don't need to tank the sun jurors, that's overthinking things. All it does is potentially get the rest of the group hit by Adjudicator's cone attack.

Just have the other three people in the group stack on a glowing tile, let the healer agg pull the head to the tile and burn it down while the tank stays in the middle of the room tanking the boss. I've done temple 5x through DF and have only wiped on the last boss once at < 5%.

[DartFx]

Oh really?

http://www.twitch.tv/lleuca/c/3072571

That was amazing xD

[Paikis]

Oh really?

http://www.twitch.tv/lleuca/c/3072571

My point stands. Titan hard Mode is a joke.