I've given in.

[Aenomaly]

I have loved scholar ever since I started, and that was with the fear that there would be tons of them because they were the flavor of the month class. I mean when i first started and saw as many carbys in limsa i just wanted to cry. When i first saw them I went back to conj, then i just decided to say the hell with it and kept leveling and i am glad i did. I don't like healing anymore as a whm, i prefer the difficulties and planning a scholar requires. I am leveling my conj to 34 to get my last cross class skill and then i it is back to scholar for life. Also, i know this sounds weird but i prefer hate on a class, keeps the people who are there just because out, but if you really enjoy the class you'll stick with it.For example I loved Ret pallies even when they were in the shits and required magic damage to increase certain skill damage, as well as attack power, and balancing all that along with the fact they are support but still need to do amazing dps to get any invites. When you did it right you got the kudos and that is how scholar is, when i do it right, and i often do, people take note and tell me. Sooo i hope they keep hating the class, and we'll just keep proving them wrong.

Aeno

[Melithea]

Sooo i hope they keep hating the class, and we'll just keep proving them wrong.

I don't think anybody actually hates Scholars, though I will openly admit to being pretty annoyed with Scholar-primary players who want to eat their cake and have the White Mages' pie, too. Healing is already pretty narrow ground to share between two classes as it is. Frankly, from what I can tell (and I have both jobs at 50) White Mages drew the short straw and Scholars are still demanding more. I prefer White Mage for reasons that go well beyond game mechanics and into reasons like aesthetics and tradition. I was a WHM main in FFXI, which was essentially my first (graphical) MMO. I loved Rosa from FFIV (Bows for WHM when, Yoshi?), I love how the AF looks, and I like using light/holy based magic.

It feels like Scholar was created purely to try to balance 8-man parties by making them require two healer slots. They could just as easily give the faerie to WHM, fix Cure III's range and give us a Haste spell (seriously, where the hell is my Haste spell?) and then you'd have one actually good healer job instead of two adequate, but incomplete healers. This would also cure Arcanists of their split-personality disorder.

I initially planned on playing both WHM and SCH so that I could exhibit more flexibility, but unfortunately it looks like the way end game gear acquisition was designed will make that near impossible (bait and switch?). I'm happy for those who enjoy playing SCH more, but WHM is supposed to be the iconic healer.

[LiadansWhisper]

I don't think anybody actually hates Scholars, though I will openly admit to being pretty annoyed with Scholar-primary players who want to eat their cake and have the White Mages' pie, too. Healing is already pretty narrow ground to share between two classes as it is. Frankly, from what I can tell (and I have both jobs at 50) White Mages drew the short straw and Scholars are still demanding more. I prefer White Mage for reasons that go well beyond game mechanics and into reasons like aesthetics and tradition. I was a WHM main in FFXI, which was essentially my first (graphical) MMO. I loved Rosa from FFIV (Bows for WHM when, Yoshi?), I love how the AF looks, and I like using light/holy based magic.

It feels like Scholar was created purely to try to balance 8-man parties by making them require two healer slots. They could just as easily give the faerie to WHM, fix Cure III's range and give us a Haste spell (seriously, where the hell is my Haste spell?) and then you'd have one actually good healer job instead of two adequate, but incomplete healers. This would also cure Arcanists of their split-personality disorder.

I initially planned on playing both WHM and SCH so that I could exhibit more flexibility, but unfortunately it looks like the way end game gear acquisition was designed will make that near impossible (bait and switch?). I'm happy for those who enjoy playing SCH more, but WHM is supposed to be the iconic healer.

No, Scholar was added because they wanted Mitigation Healers in the game. It allows them to make more complicated encounters.

I don't understand why you are so threatened by the idea that there's another class that can also heal. Mind you, this isn't my first MMO. WoW has Holy Paladin, Holy Priest, Disc Priest, Restoration Shaman, Restoration Druid, and Mistweaver Monk. SWTOR had Jedi Sage/Sith Sorcerer and the two gun healers (Smuggler and Bounty Hunter, iirc). Rift had...a ridiculous number of healing combinations. I remember at least three, four if you count the Defiler, in the Cleric class alone, plus Chloromancer and I honestly forget what else they had.

Point being, there can be multiple classes in the healing role, and it doesn't make you any less of a special snowflake. Scholars and White Mages are designed to work together. White Mages are the unquestioned kings of throughput/reactive healing. Scholars are designed to be the kings of mitigation and pre-planning. These two playstyles mesh really, really well in a two-heal scenario, and allow for much more complicated and intense encounters.

[Melithea]

I don't understand why you are so threatened by the idea that there's another class that can also heal.

I don't think you actually read my post. Also, nothing you said about other MMOs is relevant unless you're trying to suggest this is my first MMO (it's around my 10th), and using WoW as an example for that is a joke, as I'm proud to say that isn't on my list.

The only thing that makes WHM unique or even gets them into an end-game party right now is Medica/Medica II, and there are posts from Scholar players on this message board who are literally asking for their own version of those spells. THAT would be a threat to WHM ever getting to play in a group again. Even so, other than not having a Haste spell, which just seems to be blatantly missing, I'm super happy with WHM as it is right now.

I just don't want to be forced to switch to Scholar in order to be a "better" healer, and there's a lot of talk in that direction.

[Alu79]

I don't think you actually read my post. Also, nothing you said about other MMOs is relevant unless you're trying to suggest this is my first MMO (it's around my 10th), and using WoW as an example for that is a joke, as I'm proud to say that isn't on my list.

The only thing that makes WHM unique or even gets them into an end-game party right now is Medica/Medica II, and there are posts from Scholar players on this message board who are literally asking for their own version of those spells. THAT would be a threat to WHM ever getting to play in a group again. Even so, other than not having a Haste spell, which just seems to be blatantly missing, I'm super happy with WHM as it is right now.

I just don't want to be forced to switch to Scholar in order to be a "better" healer, and there's a lot of talk in that direction.

Would take all manner of pet fixes, cd reductions, changes to some of the fairy skills etc before this end up being true.

[LiadansWhisper]

I don't think you actually read my post. Also, nothing you said about other MMOs is relevant unless you're trying to suggest this is my first MMO (it's around my 10th), and using WoW as an example for that is a joke, as I'm proud to say that isn't on my list.

The only thing that makes WHM unique or even gets them into an end-game party right now is Medica/Medica II, and there are posts from Scholar players on this message board who are literally asking for their own version of those spells. THAT would be a threat to WHM ever getting to play in a group again. Even so, other than not having a Haste spell, which just seems to be blatantly missing, I'm super happy with WHM as it is right now.

I just don't want to be forced to switch to Scholar in order to be a "better" healer, and there's a lot of talk in that direction.

Man, it's like there are two wildly different worlds in this forum. There's people like you claiming you're gonna be forced to be a Scholar, and then there are threads with Scholars complaining they're just not as good as White Mages and there's no reason to bring them.

(You have a Haste spell, it's just not a very good one.)