Binding Coil of Bahamut Discussion

[Ryuni]

Ya sure if entire groups with an average ilvl of 80+ are having an enrage issue where the twisters are the enrage then they all just suck that much. No it is an intended mechanic of the encounter and begin as soon as the phase starts because they are the majority of the phase. Please unless you have seen the fight do not try and put in input that has been considered many times already and is not the case.

I don't understand this attitude, why is it such a big deal if random people just throw suggestions out there?
As someone said, it's worth it if by some off-chance one suggestion haven't been tried yet. There's no reason to lash out on people for just trying to help with good intentions.

[Almalexia]

I don't understand this attitude, why is it such a big deal if random people just throw suggestions out there?

Two words:

Absolute Virtue

[Ryuni]

Two words:

Absolute Virtue

Yeah but still not a reason to lash out on people for just wanting to help
I'm sure it's a little fun for people that haven't advanced that far to think of the craziest possible idea on how to beat it, they don't have a group that can do it here instead.

Nobody is forcing them to attempt the suggestions. If people think this is an AV case, they probably don't even attempt fighting her.

[Pellegri]

I don't understand this attitude, why is it such a big deal if random people just throw suggestions out there?
As someone said, it's worth it if by some off-chance one suggestion haven't been tried yet. There's no reason to lash out on people for just trying to help with good intentions.

I do understand some of these people are probably newer to mmos or raiding, my intent wasn't to say that any suggestion was for nothing. It's just for a boss like this and the kind of groups going against it from the start, if there was somehow a suggestion that could be said that higher end groups haven't use and could get a kill then this games "hardcore" are anything but.

Suggestions are welcome but if these better groups are anything they say they are then they have tried everything within the limits of the game to try and down this fight or pass this phase. There is nothing more than a severe lag issue with this mechanic(that may or may not be intended to gate a kill). If it was a datacenter location problem and the distance ping preventing moving out of these then that would be one thing(and would be entirely on square with their datacenter locations). But there are Japanese groups that are on this even and are having the exact same issues and they are literally sitting right ontop of their datacenter making it so they get an almost not existant difference in ping due to distance with what square would be getting(ofcourse it could also have something to do with the majority of Japanese 14 players are playing the game on ps3 because they hate Microsoft and what it stands for and for whatever reason favor console mmos far more than pc).

Well they definitely noticed that issue fast enough and this time they seem to want to take it down indefinitely until the exploit(and maybe twister bug) are actually fixed. So in other words "please look forward to 2.1 where we will be bringing back turn 5".

[Sylvanna]

[2:27 p.m.]We have confirmed that the Binding Coil of Bahamut – Turn 5 is continuing to experience issues after the Oct. 15, 2013 update wherein the monster becomes immobilized under certain circumstances.
[2:27 p.m.]For this reason, until this issue has been addressed, the Binding Coil of Bahamut – Turn 5 will be temporarily unavailable.
[2:27 p.m.]Please note that the Binding Coil of Bahamut - Turn 5 is the only instance that will be closed. Players will be free to continue challenging the Binding Coil of Bahamut - Turns 1 through 4.
[2:27 p.m.]For details, please see the News section.


Brb slashing my wrists.

[Yenn]

Have a great week, everyone!

[Baci]

Yay, againg doing nothing the rest of the week -.-"

[HiirNoivl]

Do you think the twister bug and this bug are related? o.o

[Ryuni]

Do you think the twister bug and this bug are related? o.o

I doubt it. They're just trying to fix the exploit people were using to kill her before.
I'm sure they managed to adjust the glitch a little and still get it to work, hence why SE is taking it down again.

Is this legit or just made up?

Meracydia is a place somewhere in Eorzea that believes heavily in voodoo and the Scourges have some voodoo-istic qualities when you kill them together; you have to kill the adds at the same time with them being the furthest possible distance away from each other (which actually isn't really that far, but just to be safe) this seems to increase the cast time of a special skill later in the fight.
soaking fireballs and giving Twintania stacks of waxen flesh during P2 increases the damage ceiling, size and knockback effects of individual twisters. the less stacks of waxen flesh Twintania recieves, twisters will no longer instagib and instead, deal real damage without the deathly knockbacks and knockups.
the Hygeia's damage debuff can be applied to Twintania to burn through P4 (twisters) as soon as possible as the positioning to safely dodge twisters is so wonky as to not get knocked into a wall or in front of Twintania, especially with a Dreadknight on the prowl. Asclepius doesn't seem to alter any mechanics.
at 25% Twintania loses her Slow debuff as the final chain breaks from her. at 10% Twintania splits into two and begins casting Mind Blast which will also instagib unless it's 3 targets, who are marked, are standing in their own Neurolink. This will never be cast on a tank. the placement of the third Neurolink is as important as the first two as this phase is also a DPS race as she counts down to Giga Flare, which seems to have a timer of 2 minutes when all Scourges are killed at the same time, far apart and 25-35 seconds without. Death Sentence is great fun on two tanks at the same time :/
good luck!

Source : http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...killed/ccs9fke

[Syncness]

^ Still doesn't explain the Twister mechanic. It doesn't even do damage, just kills you. At least Odin's skill did 99999 damage.