2.05 Breakdown/Letdown

[FinagleABagel]

The whole argument is dumb, for one, AK hasnt been a 20 minute dungeon since the speed run nerf, its always taken about 30-35 mins with all relic/+1s. They DID raise the amount of myths you can acquire, thats your fault for assuming they meant the cap.

You arent supposed to be farming full sets of af+1 with myth, youre supposed to be getting ilvl90 gear from the binding coil and using af+1 to fill in the gaps. If you want to take the lazy route and farm AK for months to get the gear, dont cry about how there is no content when you either cant beat titan or wont do the content you're meant to get ilvl90 from. That's like saying i have no food, when really i just dont feel like cooking.

Wait, AK is a 30 minute dungeon and has been since the speedrun nerf?

News to me....

I've been running it well under 30 minutes, and more recently under 25 minutes with Relics.

As for the rest of your post...bad player is bad. Even assuming you clear Coil through T4 every week, that's only a few rounds of drops which is purely RNG to get your class, more RNG to win the roll, and you can do it once per week. If anything it's designed to run parallel to AF2. You've got a better chance to simply wait 2-3 weeks and buy the AF2.

As for people with relic+1 and AK/AF gear, that doesn't bother me at all. Probably just another happy customer. My pockets are likely a bit more lined for it. Why would that bother me?

[Casper]

Love people stating false facts.

50 gil average per mob. If you are not speed running by skipping trash (which doesn't same THAT much time), you are going to get at the very least 2500 gils per ak run, probably closer to 2800, not 1700. 2800 gils per person per run is NOT negligible, and if you think it is you just want millions to rain over you and you understand nothing about economy.


Garuda going from 7 to 10 mytho and titan going from 10 to 15 are both about 50% upgrade in their output. While 3 mytho might seems like nothing, it does change the dynamic quit a lot, because garuda can be farmed under 10 minutes. If you are doing 7 or 8 runs per hour with a static group, you went from 49/56 to 70/80 mytho per hour. Same for titan -- assuming a 10 minute kill, which doesn't seem unreasonnable with a solid group farming it, you went from 60 to 90 mytho per hour. If this is "nothing" to you, again, i don't understand what you did expect. What ? 25 mytho per titan kill, so people can famr their 300 mytho in 2 hours, litteraly ?

[InVizO]

*snip*[/U]. I know most saw it as an increase in the amount of Myth you can get per week. Nope still only 300 a week.
And now lets go over some math here. AK 2.0 = 20 mins for 80/40. AK 2.05 = 35+mins for 100/40. <----How was this a bump in the amount you can get????? Also adding the phil / myth to other dungeons .. sounds good right.. nope. Its still better to just
grind your face off in AK because it still gets you the most for reward vrs time spent. Lets talk about Primals. Didnt do Iffy or Titan yet .. will do titan later after i wake up. but we just did Garuda 2.0- 15/7 Garuda 2.05 15/10 .

I just carried 2 pugs through wanderers palace for 100/30 25mins each time, factor that in naysayer.

[AridElf]

I think my eyes just started to melt from all the entitled whining I'm seeing today. That extra gil is great, it covers your repair costs so dungeon spammers can finally stop complaining about having no gil, and they still complain!?

I can't wait to finish the last few levels of botany, I stopped when I heard about the incoming exp boost, I'm not mad, I'm happy because I won't have to suffer the same with mining

Chin up people, changes happen in MMOs and there's naught we can do about it, whether they be good or bad in our eyes.

[Ryios]

All the new rage is going to be 2 summoner's a healer and X Dps running AK in 20 mins with no tank because of Ifrit/Titan Eggi and they will kill crap soooo fast and make so much money from limited repairs.

[Raiz_Cineris]

Not sure if you've actually done Coil yourself yet from what you say in your post. You can only complete a Turn of BCoB once per week. You have to hope the item you're looking for drops. Then you have to hope you win the need/greed lot from anyone who might be competing with you for the drop. Grinding myths for AF2 is the only reliable way to get IL90 gear atm - Allagan gear from Coil is about getting lucky with drops and rolls. People could go months on BCoB without getting any drops.

If you are competing for drops every week, you are doing it wrong.

[Nanga]

The only thing I feel let down on is SE failed to fix, "The Howing Eye (Hard)"

[Alhanelem]

Am i the only one who feels dirty and let down by 2.05? Lets go over some facts

You were "let down" by a patch specifically intended for hotfixing problems? Why did everyonge get all psyched up over this patch as if it was going to add new content or drastically change anything? hotfix means hotfix, it doesn't mean dramatic alterations.

[Wingless_Seraph]

Lots of points to be made. Lurking these forums, you hear the same tired old responses from people who read OP threads and vehemently disagree with them. Usually these replies are about rushing content or completing all content and having nothing to do, thus quitting the game. These replies are usually filled with insane hyperbole, "What do you want to login and have all the best gear handed to you?" or they'll speak as if they're roommates with Yoshi-P and state how you're supposed to obtain end game gear and it's usually centered around doing Bahamut's Coil and using AF2 as filler, when I look at it and see both systems seem to be in place to cater to the non-raider and the raider, as well as the inbetweener.

Coil has a 1-week lockout, it serves gear for every job in the game. Your chances of getting this gear is low, RNG, and basically very slow. "Welcome to endgame MMO's!" is what they say or will say. But this game touts something called an armory system and has a slightly reduced subscription fee for those who use the armory system and not need multiple chars as alts. One character can be every class in the game. So guess what happens when you try to use this armory system effectively? Those 5-months of myth grinding for one job becomes 10-months for someone with two level 50 Jobs. BC locks out your character, so what job you used to enter BC doesn't matter to the game at all. And being RNG, there is probably going to be some poor soul who goes to BC for weeks, and months, and could possibly never receive a single piece of gear from BC.

I'll say this, doing AK 8 times a week for 5 months is NOT having anything handed to you. That's 40mins AVG for AK at 8 times per week, for 20 weeks = 6400 minutes. That's 106.66666666666667 Hours of a person's time to get all of their AF2 for ONE job. There's nothing "handed to you or lazy" about that, and anyone saying so is a fool.

If anything, some compromise could be made where the myth cap is connected to the job. So you have a 300 myth cap for JOB 1, and a 300 myth cap for JOB 2. Could you use both myths say for one job? I don't really have a problem with that. A person's time is a person's time. Does that mean some people will have AF2 for one job faster than those who don't have other jobs at cap? Sure, but who cares? They're still putting in 16 runs a week to cap out 300 myths for both jobs.

[Blimbeard]

I think my eyes just started to melt from all the entitled whining I'm seeing today. That extra gil is great, it covers your repair costs so dungeon spammers can finally stop complaining about having no gil, and they still complain!?

This is the wolrd of MMO Forums. Let's face it, SE could have sent a trio of scantily clad cosplay girls / boys dressed as Miq'ote exotic dancers to every players house and presented them with a gold plated chocolate chocobo, and some of these players would probably be on the forum within 10 minutes complaining that they didn't get a diamond crusted strawberry flavoured Cactuar hand delivered by bikini clad Elezen.