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  1. #111
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    I'm up to 25 Million so far... and i've stayed away from RMT hot spots.
    I wanna try and get back to where i was in 1.0,
    50 million
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    Make it happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melithea View Post
    The economics are one thing, I'd be more interested to hear how he supposedly beat the rest of the server to level 50 Miner by a week without botting, especially since he was competing with bots.
    I'd assume he was mining loads on release / early access. Same could be said about those who hit 50 in a 3/4 days.

    Bots don't do leve's (loads more exp if he used all his for mining) nor would they optimise their time mining.

    They also would not gear up in order to get more items/hq rate, aka more exp, nor would they quickly move to the next best exp spot. I expect they also gather slower time for time.

    I doubt bot's could even gather rare nodes (what Kevin was selling), due to long time between spawns / different locations etc etc etc.
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  3. #113
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    The big flaw in this of course is, DoW and DoM don't make Darksteel Nuggets, crafters do and in ARR leveling craft without a DoL is pretty much impossible. If this was a Legacy server, you weren't the only one with 50 DoL. You just weren't.

    So while you leveled Miner to 46, someone else was leveling all variants of craft to 50, getting gear from all the other crafts to meet required Craftsmanship and Control and doing the storyline to get a DoW or DoM and spiritbonding Materia IV and some how beating the RnG and getting the coke and the ... yea. I think maybe you made your gil fair OP? But I don't think it worked out quite the way you decided
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksenia View Post
    The big flaw in this of course is, DoW and DoM don't make Darksteel Nuggets, crafters do and in ARR leveling craft without a DoL is pretty much impossible. If this was a Legacy server, you weren't the only one with 50 DoL. You just weren't.

    So while you leveled Miner to 46, someone else was leveling all variants of craft to 50, getting gear from all the other crafts to meet required Craftsmanship and Control and doing the storyline to get a DoW or DoM and spiritbonding Materia IV and some how beating the RnG and getting the coke and the ... yea. I think maybe you made your gil fair OP? But I don't think it worked out quite the way you decided
    Did you even read his post?

    Where does it say he was on a Legacy Server?

    Where does it say he was selling DS Nuggets?

    Where does it say he was crafting?
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Did you even read his post?

    Where does it say he was on a Legacy Server?

    Where does it say he was selling DS Nuggets?

    Where does it say he was crafting?
    Did you read mine?

    I did say he is fooling himself if he thought he was the first Miner on a legacy server.
    I don't care who makes the stuff, it was made by those crafts. They had to be leveled.
    He was selling DS Ore to people who can make DS Nuggets. They need to be made to make the gear?

    Forward think a bit. I know it's complex and all.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vantwan View Post
    I didn't read your whole post but it doesn't take much more than common sense to realize that server-first high level crafters/gatherers would be filthy rich because they have complete control over the market for endgame materials, most notably for pre-relics.
    too true, by comparison, the price of darksteel ore on Hyperion is something like under 200 gil, mostly because as a legacy server, we have plenty of max level gatherers already.
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    SELL POTASH !!!!!
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    /yawn people still care about this?
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by madmike420 View Post
    /yawn people still care about this?
    My guess is most will stop again in 12 minutes or so.
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  11. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksenia View Post
    Did you read mine?

    I did say he is fooling himself if he thought he was the first Miner on a legacy server.
    I don't care who makes the stuff, it was made by those crafts. They had to be leveled.
    He was selling DS Ore to people who can make DS Nuggets. They need to be made to make the gear?

    Forward think a bit. I know it's complex and all.
    Cactuar is not a legacy server and yes I was the first 46+ on server, I was getting litteraly spammed with lvl 50s asking for the darksteel ores for their relics, not the mention the ones I sold on market.
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