Best of: Titan's pugs

[Zaiken]

You will if you go in with that attitude. Titan is the second piece of content that really shows you how bad people are (first being Qarn's first boss).

People are lazy and expecting to be carried through Titan like they've been carried through everything else. It doesn't work, because unless you're very skilled, it requires everyone to pull their weight.

Hmmm..what kind of Attitude should I go in as then? I always watch Videos and Stradegy whenever I do any of the Hard Mode Primal Fight. I don't even attempt anything until I know I have the necessary gears to do it as. I usually invite a couple of Friends first and fill in a few to do a couple of practice.

Am I suppose to turn into Elistism and name calling people if they are first time and make mistake? I have people join in DF with level 40 weapon and artifact with level 30 jewelry for Garuda Hard Mode. But I still try my best to win the fight for them, if it's not possible I tell them to gear up first then leave.

I find every fight is possible, it required team work, cordination and everyone to follow each other. Name calling and putting someone down will never work. Unfortunately, this is what it is like with DF which is why Titan Hard Mode will never work as DF most of the time.

[Zoloe]

Erm .. I'm also guilty of that ....

Me too! Weeeeee!

[AmoryDalis]

i agree, im at titan hm myself full DL execpt 1 ring is hop and my shield is some 44 random green, but im told it is fine to go with, i have ifrit weapon as i have yet to get the garuda one. the trouble i run into is when i go to position titan in the north spot for my(tank), i get half the dps jsut going full auto on it before i get to land my 2nd shot. i myelf have not finished this fight, but i have watched several videos and a few from tank pov so i think i understand it, but ofc exp is best learned by doing. my first time in i was tanking it up to just before p5 whitch im told is the start of the fight. im a hard worker and fast learner but the way people act and treat people is jsut crazy. they expect u to be experts and have 100% perfect everything really. but the reall funny thing is its the dps and healers in the groups i go in ifrit/garuda/titan hms that mess up more then i but i get the most grief. go figure, i guess i should sjut find a FC of people to play with lol

[GarrEphemeral]

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Some people don't have patience for people that feel entitled to be able to complete something, just because, without any effort. A lot of the people that try to do Titan in PUGs that I've often experienced are people that do not wish to learn from their mistakes, and for some of us there is only so much patience to employ.

And, as you put it, it is a game, and a game should be fun. I have a static group that one shots titan anytime any of us need to get our relics for alts. It took me a while to find the people capable, but once I did it was definitely a huge relief from having to deal with annoying noobs who just continually die to the same old shit every attempt. I just don't have the time, or the inclination to play with those types of people, and more so I shouldn't have to, and neither should other people who are willing to learn, and put in effort to get their relics.

[Aethaeryn]

You will if you go in with that attitude.

Go in with what attitude? Is there something wrong with Zaiken not wanting to deal with jerks in duty finder parties? Some people are just beyond rude for no reason. I asked the healers to remove the determination debuff left by being encased in Granite Gaol yesterday (and fully explained the effects), and they both got really defensive and said I was accusing them of causing the group to wipe and refused to do it. Then one of them said my low dps was causing the wipes, and could not comprehend why me hitting for 100 damage a spell for a minute at a time after being gaoled three times in a row could have anything to do with my damage. Never mind that she also died to plumes every fight...

That doesn't even beat the AK group I had where I was called bad and told that I'll never be more than a below average player because I didn't know you could step through psychflayer for Void Thunder III on my second time there on paladin (like a week or two after game release). And no one even died the entire run either.

There's just no reason to be so rude and insult people like that. Give people advice and help them become better players. Don't queue up with duty finder and expect every player there to be seasoned veterans or make zero mistakes. If you make a shout group for Titan or something and someone isn't pulling his/her weight, explain why it's a problem and ask them to leave or remove them. Someone struggling with mechanics for a fight like that isn't necessarily 'lazy' or expecting to be carried. :/ Bullying leads to players unsubbing from the game, and fewer players leads to fewer content updates. I don't think any of us want that.

[jdnyc]

Some people don't have patience for people that feel entitled to be able to complete something, just because, without any effort. A lot of the people that try to do Titan in PUGs that I've often experienced are people that do not wish to learn from their mistakes, and for some of us there is only so much patience to employ.

And, as you put it, it is a game, and a game should be fun. I have a static group that one shots titan anytime any of us need to get our relics for alts. It took me a while to find the people capable, but once I did it was definitely a huge relief from having to deal with annoying noobs who just continually die to the same old shit every attempt. I just don't have the time, or the inclination to play with those types of people, and more so I shouldn't have to, and neither should other people who are willing to learn, and put in effort to get their relics.

Okay... You don't have to?

[jello]

Only one that really sticks out in my mind. A late night DF group that had a Gladiator and a super under-geared WHM (2800HP?) who was constantly in cleric stance.

I still believe I got trolled.

[Obysuca]

-The three healers that left me (tank), on the second mountain buster, at 800 hp. Popped rampart well ahead of time, waiting for some heal. None coming, i popped sentinel. Nothing still, and i died a gruesome death. All three healers were alive and with plentiful mp.

Happens to me all the time, not only on Titan, but everything. It's like the healers just up and decide that the tank isn't important enough to cure anymore

[Flionheart]

Hmmm..what kind of Attitude should I go in as then? I always watch Videos and Stradegy whenever I do any of the Hard Mode Primal Fight. I don't even attempt anything until I know I have the necessary gears to do it as. I usually invite a couple of Friends first and fill in a few to do a couple of practice.

Am I suppose to turn into Elistism and name calling people if they are first time and make mistake? I have people join in DF with level 40 weapon and artifact with level 30 jewelry for Garuda Hard Mode. But I still try my best to win the fight for them, if it's not possible I tell them to gear up first then leave.

I find every fight is possible, it required team work, cordination and everyone to follow each other. Name calling and putting someone down will never work. Unfortunately, this is what it is like with DF which is why Titan Hard Mode will never work as DF most of the time.

Your tune will change when you've wiped to Titan for the 100th time because you literally can't carry 7 other people to victory alone.

People refuse to learn from mistakes.

[Maddox]

I got a Whale of Tale for yee:

Lets just say I saw my fair share of DF Titan HM horror stories, but just one particular incident always stands fresh in my mind.

I decided to off tank because the other tank asked me if he could MT because he found it easier. Well to sum things up, you know how when Titan jumps and lands he knock's a ring of land off the stage right?

Well Titan Jumps, the MT forgets to move, so we're all just standing there watching him, expecting him to move. Well didn't happen, land fell and the Main Tank went with it, while we all just watched.

Twas Raulins.