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    Player Sinth's Avatar
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    These kids wouldn't have lasted a week in the early days of XI. Complaining that 1 or 2 encounters are not in DF... lol. Back in my day we shouted or sat patiently for hours with our LFG flag up or we combed through player searches to find the right level and job just to gain experience(we didn't have level sync either). There was no soloing to level 50 or using a quickmatch feature to find your group for you. Now everyone wants everything handed to them right when they want it. Its sad to see the MMO scene transition from delayed gratification to instant gratification. The age of ritalin is upon us.
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    Last edited by Sinth; 10-11-2013 at 01:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinth View Post
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    This by the way was a terrible idea. Having to spend the better part of a weekend to shout and get stuff done was awful. Did it toughen you up? Absolutely but it also turned a lot of players away from the game. Especially when new FoTM came about. I waited as a PLD for days to get parties because everyone wanted a ninja tank because healers liked healing them more. Had nothing to do with my skill level but all to do with the dynamics of the game. Made me quit for a while before coming back to find out PLD is now in demand

    This game purposely puts people at max level rather than having to grind for it. So the argument of instant gratification is kinda moot. Game puts everyone there.
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    And the standard is then set because they breezed up to 50, why should they not be able to breeze through end-game content? And now we get a forum full of over-entitled crybabies who cannot complete content because its either:
    1. SE's fault
    2. Every other player's fault

    I'm not saying that old XI partying was good, but jesus, nowadays someone has to wait 30 mintues for a DF queue and they flip their wig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinth View Post
    And the standard is then set because they breezed up to 50, why should they not be able to breeze through end-game content? And now we get a forum full of over-entitled crybabies who cannot complete content because its either:
    1. SE's fault
    2. Every other player's fault

    I'm not saying that old XI partying was good, but jesus, nowadays someone has to wait 30 mintues for a DF queue and they flip their wig.
    I see your point and I understand it. It's true there are a lot more entitled people now. However these forums maybe 200-300 active users posting? The game I think for NA had 300k+ so it's just the toxic ones are the most vocal and that might be more of a generational thing that we've been seeing in the US (don't know about how it is in other countries).

    But it's as others say, this game has casual gamers in mind and spending forever and a day to get their relic done is a hassle and incredibly inefficient. I'd rather attempt Hydra and fail so I can get the mechanics down than try to form a party and wipe losing all that time I spent making the party. From what I've heard, titan is harder than Chimera and Hydra, but I've done none of those so far. If that is true, then there's no reason not to have them in the DF along with the other primals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker View Post
    This by the way was a terrible idea. Having to spend the better part of a weekend to shout and get stuff done was awful. Did it toughen you up? Absolutely but it also turned a lot of players away from the game. Especially when new FoTM came about. I waited as a PLD for days to get parties because everyone wanted a ninja tank because healers liked healing them more. Had nothing to do with my skill level but all to do with the dynamics of the game. Made me quit for a while before coming back to find out PLD is now in demand

    This game purposely puts people at max level rather than having to grind for it. So the argument of instant gratification is kinda moot. Game puts everyone there.
    Your argument is without grounds. WoW didn't have LFG Tool for all of Vanilla and BC, tell me because I can't seem to remember, how many people quit the game because of that? How poorly did WoW fail without the LFG Tool, oh wait, it didn't. Please try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzothegreat198 View Post
    Your argument is without grounds. WoW didn't have LFG Tool for all of Vanilla and BC, tell me because I can't seem to remember, how many people quit the game because of that? How poorly did WoW fail without the LFG Tool, oh wait, it didn't. Please try again.
    There reason to that cuz back then most of the games were shit and grindfest even without lfg tool they still better than all the games out there at that time. Try that now and you will see noone would stick around . Now a day pple expect alot from MMO due to the fact there tons of mmo out there so they offer all kind of choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzothegreat198 View Post
    Your argument is without grounds. WoW didn't have LFG Tool for all of Vanilla and BC, tell me because I can't seem to remember, how many people quit the game because of that? How poorly did WoW fail without the LFG Tool, oh wait, it didn't. Please try again.
    You're argument is without base. My experience was in direct relation to FF11 which is what the other individual was talking about. I wish people would stop bringing up WoW for no reason. I couldn't care less about the game. I played it, got bored and quit. FF11 was a different story when it came to LFG. It had almost no solo content unless you geared for it with a BST or a NIN. WoW had solo content 2 different situations.

    Spending needless time to make groups for Chimera and Hydra when Titan is in DF is what this thread is about, which is what my response was to. I suggest you stop trying to hijack the thread and make it into another pointless "BUT WOW DID THIS" thread.

    Good lord people struggle with reading comprehension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzothegreat198 View Post
    Your argument is without grounds. WoW didn't have LFG Tool for all of Vanilla and BC
    Nine years ago.
    K tnx bye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinth View Post
    These kids wouldn't have lasted a week in the early days of XI. Complaining that 1 or 2 encounters are not in DF... lol. Back in my day we shouted or sat patiently for hours with our LFG flag up or we combed through player searches to find the right level and job just to gain experience(we didn't have level sync either). There was no soloing to level 50 or using a quickmatch feature to find your group for you. Now everyone wants everything handed to them right when they want it. Its sad to see the MMO scene transition from delayed gratification to instant gratification. The age of ritalin is upon us.
    Go get a job and limited time to play and maybe you will realize that you weekend is most valuable than shouting in an online game. Gratiication is only achieved by killing a boss, and its hard most of time, not by shouting " LFM/LFG" all day long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninao View Post
    Go get a job and limited time to play and maybe you will realize that you weekend is most valuable than shouting in an online game. Gratiication is only achieved by killing a boss, and its hard most of time, not by shouting " LFM/LFG" all day long.
    Ya I work 50 hours a week. Your ad hominem assumption just goes to show your limited mental capabilities and your lack of a legitimate argument. So go ahead, reply with more logical fallacies if it makes you feel better.

    If you are so limited with your time, then I'm sure you could find something more productive to do than play video games. Am I right, or are you ready to backpedal?
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    Last edited by Sinth; 10-11-2013 at 04:31 AM.

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