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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    I actually was hoping for a simple Title System. But I don't want it so simple that only Pugilist can be Monk. That sounds too much like RO and boring.
    Lol your idea is boring and dumb allowing anyone to be anything is not so great Monk use hand to hand how would you be a conj and call yourself a monk using a staff? that make no sense.

    The two system i was thinking was

    Like FFXI unlock any job with any class and and they have there own Wep

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    Pug level to 30 unlock Monk

    Your now level 1 monk with it's own JA,WS,Spell

    but i guess SE are to lazy and don't have time to make such a system like that and they did it the lazy way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Lol your idea is boring and dumb allowing anyone to be anything is not so great Monk use hand to hand how would you be a conj and call yourself a monk using a staff? that make no sense.

    The two system i was thinking was

    Like FFXI unlock any job with any class and and they have there own Wep

    Or

    Pug level to 30 unlock Monk

    Your now level 1 monk with it's own JA,WS,Spell

    but i guess SE are to lazy and don't have time to make such a system like that and they did it the lazy way.
    You know in FFXI Monks could use staffs, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    You know in FFXI Monks could use staffs, right?
    They use Poles which in ffxi was called staff but not that not point how can you call yourself a monk if you using a ward? or a pole arm? using a title system is a lazy way of doing it because they don't want to remake the class system and turn them into more of a job system.


    i guess i'll wait for release and see how it is maybe it good maybe is lame like am thinking. Pretty much if i unlock monk right now and my pug is 50 my monk would be 50 which they pretty much did noting but give me a nice cute title saying you now a monk if they do give you spell,ws,ja for monk you have 50 level of learning to do.

    @Cairdeas am talking about FFXI monk which they use hand to hand combat which FF7 also use which was tifa. Even real life monk can fight without issue there just more spiritual and only use fighting if they most. Pugilist is pretty much boxer which that what there are i don't even know why there using hand to hand wep that monk would use but w/e.

    i still like a job system where you really become the class not just get a title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    They use Poles which in ffxi was called staff but not that not point how can you call yourself a monk if you using a ward? or a pole arm? using a title system is a lazy way of doing it because they don't want to remake the class system and turn them into more of a job system.


    i guess i'll wait for release and see how it is maybe it good maybe is lame like am thinking. Pretty much if i unlock monk right now and my pug is 50 my monk would be 50 which they pretty much did noting but give me a nice cute title saying you now a monk if they do give you spell,ws,ja for monk you have 50 level of learning to do.
    I would prefer a leveling system for the jobs, but I know most people on here wouldn't like it, because it's more grinding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    I would prefer a leveling system for the jobs, but I know most people on here wouldn't like it, because it's more grinding.
    Like it hard to grind in the start with -.- dam casual players they pretty much made a dumb job system where you just are now Monk and lock to only using monk type spell,ws,ja. If they made it more like ffxi but made it so

    Level up PUG to 30 you allow to unlock Monk or THF or you can just go on level up PUG.

    If you unlock monk you start from level 1 with your own spell,ja,ws and you can't hybrid.

    The better idea was to delete the full Class system and add jobs not even wow have hybrid anymore they limit it so much that you can only put a few spell from the other tree now unlock before.

    @Cairdeas making it so pretty much only sword can be PLD? that not a very good system i don't even know why you want that -.- oh god cairdeas from all the years i know you from eorzea you do have weird ideas and not to be rude there pretty much dumb.

    If that how they going to do it then FFXIV have no hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Like it hard to grind in the start with -.- dam casual players they pretty much made a dumb job system where you just are now Monk and lock to only using monk type spell,ws,ja. If they made it more like ffxi but made it so

    Level up PUG to 30 you allow to unlock Monk or THF or you can just go on level up PUG.

    If you unlock monk you start from level 1 with your own spell,ja,ws and you can't hybrid.

    The better idea was to delete the full Class system and add jobs not even wow have hybrid anymore they limit it so much that you can only put a few spell from the other tree now unlock before.

    @Cairdeas making it so pretty much only sword can be PLD? that not a very good system i don't even know why you want that -.- oh god cairdeas from all the years i know you from eorzea you do have weird ideas and not to be rude there pretty much dumb.

    If that how they going to do it then FFXIV have no hope.
    ff game are all about hybrids though. Look at red mage, blue mage etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    ff game are all about hybrids though. Look at red mage, blue mage etc.
    -.- you joking right yes there hybrids but at the end it's have it own Role FFXIV is way to hybrid and just adding something on top of a system is not very great in my books they should have made it how i said You unlock Monk from Pug go level up monk from level 1,.

    and btw how is blue mage a hybrid? it use spell from other mobs that it role copy cat Red mage may be hybrid but it never can be as good as a Black mage or a white mage or a time mage or a warrior it suck at all of them the good thing about red mage is it have Endspell and other spell which make up for it and make its is own job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Like it hard to grind in the start with -.- dam casual players they pretty much made a dumb job system where you just are now Monk and lock to only using monk type spell,ws,ja. If they made it more like ffxi but made it so

    Level up PUG to 30 you allow to unlock Monk or THF or you can just go on level up PUG.

    If you unlock monk you start from level 1 with your own spell,ja,ws and you can't hybrid.

    The better idea was to delete the full Class system and add jobs not even wow have hybrid anymore they limit it so much that you can only put a few spell from the other tree now unlock before.
    Hey, don't blame casuals, I'm consider myself casual but I don't mind taking the time to do things. As long as the battle system stays fast paced, and we keep leves, guild tasks, and behests, getting SP shouldn't be too much of an issue.

    I prefer the class/job system, that way the soloers and partiers are happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    Hey, don't blame casuals, I'm consider myself casual but I don't mind taking the time to do things. As long as the battle system stays fast paced, and we keep leves, guild tasks, and behests, getting SP shouldn't be too much of an issue.

    I prefer the class/job system, that way the soloers and partiers are happy.
    I call myself casual and i play 15+hours -.- that not the point

    If let's say i do become a monk and am the same level as Pug and i have to use the same gear as pug they pretty much did noting. Am still not a real pug now if they add ws,ja,spell that only Monk can use then ok that sound great too me

    the only thing i don't like that am still a Pug -.- i want to level monk from 1-50 not still be a pug with a title as a monk i think that the only problem i have i with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    @Cairdeas making it so pretty much only sword can be PLD? that not a very good system i don't even know why you want that -.- oh god cairdeas from all the years i know you from eorzea you do have weird ideas and not to be rude there pretty much dumb.
    You don't understand Zenaku thats exactly what I DONT want. I dont want to be forced to play paladin with only sword. That line I put in quotes

    "Gladiator Unlocks the quest for Paladin and once you unlock it you can only equip the Paladin Job as a Gladiator."
    Was an explaination of what I meant by Jobs being locked and that I DO NOT want them to be locked.
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