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  1. #281
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    Zoeila's Avatar
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    Justina Suntail
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    while i think bard needs a nerf lets be honest here this isnt pre nerf ranger in ffxi. i would hit them in he mobility department. make shots fired while on the run suffer a signifigant accuracy cut and lower movement speed to stealth speed when firing on the run
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  2. #282
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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by projectcko View Post
    WELL SAID chumsy! Now people won't have to read my long paragraph. I'm such a newb XD
    here is their ans"you cant change a DPS class to a SUPPORT class. the duty finder does not support having a dedicated support class. this "solution" would only hurt the game and make the bard class far from being useable as a DPS class. this is also why 99.99% of the people posting in here could and should NEVER be a gamge designer."

    it only hurt the current DF mechanism which is already broken since the beginning
    or we can have something allow them to shift between DPS and supportive
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  3. #283
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    RonPierce's Avatar
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    Sikare Whitewind
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Bards don't need to be nerfed, and I agree, its a good thing most of the public aren't game designers. Say you did nerf Bards this is what you get:
    - A sub par DPS
    - No CC
    - The hardest role in the game for any DPS (timing Silences on certain bosses) So the hard "dirty work" for no reward.
    - Songs that are having diminishing use as we gear up (Foe Req being the only useful, but requires a 3 second cast and not full uptime, where as say Disembowel has 100% uptime.)
    - No excitement of big hits.
    - Only ranged that can't effectively use sprint to avoid AOEs, while also not having the armor of any other TP user (except monk).

    All because what?

    - We can move while shooting...

    Get over it. The game is fine. If we didn't get a little reward for having to deal with silences and timing songs, it wouldn't be worth playing most of the time.
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    Last edited by RonPierce; 10-06-2013 at 02:22 AM.

  4. #284
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    traja's Avatar
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    Covalent Ohm
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    Cerberus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 31
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPierce View Post
    Get over it. The game is fine. If we didn't get a little reward for having to deal with silences and timing songs, it wouldn't be worth playing most of the time.
    Oh the burden of having great utility. I have changed my mind, bards need buffs. All the other classes have it too easy not having to deal with having such amazing utility. Personally I'm thinking infinite range is needed.
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  5. #285
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    RonPierce's Avatar
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    Sikare Whitewind
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by traja View Post
    Oh the burden of having great utility. I have changed my mind, bards need buffs. All the other classes have it too easy not having to deal with having such amazing utility. Personally I'm thinking infinite range is needed.
    Okay lets nerf Black mage damage and give them an interrupt, then this guy will be happy.
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  6. #286
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    KoujiGeki's Avatar
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    Kouji Geki
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    Excalibur
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    Armorer Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPierce View Post
    Bards don't need to be nerfed, and I agree, its a good thing most of the public aren't game designers. Say you did nerf Bards this is what you get:
    - A sub par DPS
    - No CC
    - The hardest role in the game for any DPS (timing Silences on certain bosses) So the hard "dirty work" for no reward.
    - Songs that are having diminishing use as we gear up (Foe Req being the only useful, but requires a 3 second cast and not full uptime, where as say Disembowel has 100% uptime.)
    - No excitement of big hits.
    - Only ranged that can't effectively use sprint to avoid AOEs, while also not having the armor of any other TP user (except monk).

    All because what?

    - We can move while shooting...

    Well If mages had to suffer with not moving while casting it makes only sense that other range jobs should to, its not fair that a brd could dps a blm at a distance and move out of range of a blm.
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  7. #287
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    Sikare Whitewind
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    Well If mages had to suffer with not moving while casting it makes only sense that other range jobs should to, its not fair that a brd could dps a blm at a distance and move out of range of a blm.
    We also can't sprint, we should get a sprint that doesn't cost anything (since we use TP). All you're doing is asking for the game to have 1 class. Every class has downfalls, and unfortunately everyone is "give me give me give me", they want what every other class has without giving up what they have to others. It's standard in every game, people cry until they have every tool everyone else has, then they complain every class is the same and is flooded with too many abilities. I'd hate to see that happen in this game too.
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  8. #288
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    KoujiGeki's Avatar
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    Kouji Geki
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    Excalibur
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    Armorer Lv 58
    what does sprint have to do with anything? you can move and shoot. Blm use to be able to also until SE was like "HERDER that'll be unfair in pvp." Couldnt compromise and make Blm able to at least only able to walk not run and cast in EQOA.
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  9. #289
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    Nexxus's Avatar
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    Yoko Ceres
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Songs that are having diminishing use as we gear up (Foe Req being the only useful, but requires a 3 second cast and not full uptime, where as say Disembowel has 100% uptime.)
    What i'm also seeing, is, as Bard Gear UP, they get better crit.rate, making them not only having more power for their abilities but also triggering more often the reset cooldown of Bloodletter... Enhancing more and more their DPS as their Crit.rate grow up.
    Actually they look hmmm...okay... Once Full ilvl90, i fear the overpower to come. Unless there is a Crit.rate cap.
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    Il est possible de dépassé la limite des 1ooo caractères, il suffit d'éditer son post ~

  10. #290
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    ChaozK's Avatar
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPierce View Post
    We also can't sprint, we should get a sprint that doesn't cost anything (since we use TP)
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPierce View Post
    and unfortunately everyone is "give me give me give me"
    Oh the irony, it hurts. I lost a little bit more faith in the interwebs today.
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