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  1. #571
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moth View Post
    It is kinda sad how everyone and their mothers got those NM drops within the first week of their release. Nothing is rare, everything is common, everyone has everything, very boring imo.
    and the same people that are glad that everyone has everything are the same people complaining about uniqueness. how unique can a character be when almost everyone has the exact same gear you are wearing? very boring to see an entire group running around with the same low level gear.
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    Dude, if you want to feel special wear a Tutu when playing. Seriously, there's a difference between class uniqueness and omgimsol33ticampedthisr30nmfor40hstraighttogetacrapitemisouniqueandl33t. I don't mind seing those nm repop so fast since they're just low rank nm. As for uniqueness, even with time sink NMs at one point everyone wears the same gear. It just take longer lol. If you want gear uniqueness, ask SE to make NM drop items that will only drop with just a limited number, like 2 or 3, by server end of the story.
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    I haven't read all 58 pages of this post so this may have already been said. But personally I liked some of the long and rare respawn times on NMs in XI. It made the enemy unique, and even exciting, when you ran by and seen it up. Remember the early days of xi, you're in valkurn dunes, and you see VE up? Maybe you or some of your party warp out to change jobs and try to race back to claim it? Things like that made XI interesting to me. I spent hours and hours, sometimes alone since I play late at night NA time, just exploring zones, looking for NMs or trying to spawn them. IMO a horrible drop rate with a fast respawn timer takes away from part of that "unique" feel. Maybe I'm the only one thinking this but I enjoyed some of the rare NMs in XI, they were the most fun to hunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldwin View Post
    I haven't read all 58 pages of this post so this may have already been said. But personally I liked some of the long and rare respawn times on NMs in XI. It made the enemy unique, and even exciting, when you ran by and seen it up. Remember the early days of xi, you're in valkurn dunes, and you see VE up? Maybe you or some of your party warp out to change jobs and try to race back to claim it? Things like that made XI interesting to me. I spent hours and hours, sometimes alone since I play late at night NA time, just exploring zones, looking for NMs or trying to spawn them. IMO a horrible drop rate with a fast respawn timer takes away from part of that "unique" feel. Maybe I'm the only one thinking this but I enjoyed some of the rare NMs in XI, they were the most fun to hunt.
    If you did read they just say that way to much pretty much all the casual want 1hour or less HNM and NM they don't want anything to be unique they just do understand that some NM and HNM should be 10+hours even wow have rare mobs that did not pop for hours so i don't really know what casual game they playing but really they should be some mobs that have very high repop to make it really unique and you can alway do the bcnm to get the item like VE item lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    even wow have rare mobs that did not pop for hours so i don't really know what casual game they playing but really they should be some mobs that have very high repop to make it really unique and you can alway do the bcnm to get the item like VE item lol
    So now we should be like WoW huh?

    Most of us can't play eight hours a day, listening to you no-lifers and changing NMs to be *watch-tv-an-hour > try-to-claim > repeat* will simply cause the game to lose more customers.
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    This again? I'll just go state my opinion again:

    I don't have time to wait around for 3+ hour NM pops, nor can I afford to be on at obscure hours for pops, nor do I feel like spending time in the game not playing. Some nights I only have a few hours, on those nights I would love to be playing through challenging content that requires me as a player to be skilled. I want to fight something that is truly challenging, where even though we're 100% prepared we don't know if we're going to win. Fights that can throw curve balls that destroy you if you don't know how to handle it. That is what I prefer. If we had true challenge like that I don't care if the NM spawns every 30 seconds. If people are afraid to even go fight it, then the items won't be super common.

    The difficulty should be the determining factor in who gets the drops. If everyone has it then that means that everyone on the server has at least that much skill. That's a win-win in my book. People get their loot AND they're all competent players?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moth View Post
    It is kinda sad how everyone and their mothers got those NM drops within the first week of their release. Nothing is rare, everything is common, everyone has everything, very boring imo.
    Actually this can't be 100% true.

    There are new players coming into the game every day and some don't have the ranks or support of a shell to help kill these NM's. Also a friend and I do a run every week for all the people who still do need items off of these lower NM's in our shell. On top of that we have already had people who didn't catch some of our other runs ask us to help them by going back to some we have already done since they missed it and need the item. I can say I do not have every item off of every NM either, since I pass on them for people who do need them more than me.

    So while, yes, I am sure a lot of people do have a lot of the items. I doubt every single person has every single item off of every single NM that was put in on that patch. Also it's not boring to me, I find it fulfilling and it makes me happy to get someone something they really would like to have. Like our new member who is leveling Marauder, he just went for the fun because he was new to the game and shell. We ended up getting him two Marauder pieces, and he had never had anything off the NM's before.

    Even if someone has every piece, is it really that boring to give support and help to others? This game is about working together and doing things together, supporting one another. Also as the Dev said, they are going to add in higher level NM's that will pose a greater challenge.

    Also the lower NM's don't have to be about just the gear, players can go there for one person and it can also be used to get players used to working together as a group and learning the order of how to 'break' things on the NM's, how to use Light and Heavy properly, etc. I think it's nice to start people off with a NM that is more predicable and learn how to fight it to get experience in NM fighting when players are lower level, then work up to the (perhaps, since we don't have any info on them yet) longer pop time, spawn type, harder to handle NMs they might introduce.

    Anyway I don't see why there can't be things for casual players to do, and also have things for more hardcore people to do. It doesn't have to be one way or another... they are still working on the game and there is more coming. Key to this is patience, which I have no problem with.
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  8. #578
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilean View Post
    So now we should be like WoW huh?

    Most of us can't play eight hours a day, listening to you no-lifers and changing NMs to be *watch-tv-an-hour > try-to-claim > repeat* will simply cause the game to lose more customers.
    Then you should get what you can get in the time you play....and let ppl who can play more get more.... wtfing selfish ppl plays MMO lately...

    if you are poor, you cant buy a lamborghini....you will buy a fiat..... or maybe you think all should get a damn lambo???


    then since none calls you "blablabla doutchbag always out for pt-fest guy" or something like that, you should not care how other ppl decide to spend their time .....im working , going out, see friends and girls....and still play like a nerd.... is that a prob?

    i dont know if you have ever played a MMO, because this is the 1st MMO in history that let you get everything in no-time..... mm maybe rift will...(you should try rift, you can get all gear after 10h play-time...or at least an offline game with MSN or SKYPE for the ONLINE-SENSE.... /sarcasm off)

    I have been said it many times.... ok with those crappy repop NM, let them in game... so all can get cool gear, but many players need some more effort-challenging-content in game....In game the sheeps for the sheepskin are more camped then these new NM.... absurd..... and thats only because all players have alreday all the NM EQUIP....after not even 2months those NM are already obsolete....


    Guys dont be egoist...accept a game that has both the content.... so all can be satisfied....


    Cant be so bad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    God you sure do cry a lot.

    They may repop fast, but the drop rate is very low. Again. Accessibility. Yay for it.
    YAYYYYYYY! Leaping Lizzy can burn in the fiery pits of whatever underworld you believe in, or ALL of them muah aha ha! I hated XI's NMs.

    I'll tell you what's stupid waiting for hours to repop an NM, have it repop and some douche with a Xbow comes along with ++ in dexterity (or whatever it was) and claims it before you can... Yeah, no thanks.
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    I want to a pretty unique snowflake with gear no one else can get so i can show it off in ul'dah and have newbies say "OH MAI GAWD WHERE DID YOU GET THAT!?"
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