We want Blue Mage ASAP

[Kyreanna]

I don't suppose you've given any thought to the fact that we're not going to need as many jobs as there've been in the past, have you? We have cross-class abilities, skill/playstyle consolidation (consider for example the fact that FFXIV Bard is a combination of FFXI's Bard + Ranger). We also are lacking in the ridiculously long spell lists available to casters. Each class has an "almost" unique spell set (why oh why is there cure and physic... ... ...) Move away from the idea that we need the exact same game as we had before, and realize that class/job expansion is only necessary so long as they are unique.

[Moomooboy]

yes...yes..no...no...yess...yes!!
But if Lighting can join FFXIV then Yuna should comes too :x

[Whiz]

I don't suppose you've given any thought to the fact that we're not going to need as many jobs as there've been in the past, have you? We have cross-class abilities, skill/playstyle consolidation (consider for example the fact that FFXIV Bard is a combination of FFXI's Bard + Ranger). We also are lacking in the ridiculously long spell lists available to casters. Each class has an "almost" unique spell set (why oh why is there cure and physic... ... ...) Move away from the idea that we need the exact same game as we had before, and realize that class/job expansion is only necessary so long as they are unique.

You have to keep in mind that no one plays classes past lv 30. Its all about the Jobs. Classes are inferior to Jobs. We only have about 7 jobs atm and they aren't that great. We only have 2tank/2heals/3rng/2melee dps the choices are very limited. We need at least need 7 more fun jobs.

[NeoZehel]

You have to keep in mind that no one plays classes past lv 30. Its all about the Jobs. Classes are inferior to Jobs. We only have about 7 jobs atm and they aren't that great. We only have 2tank/2heals/3rng/2melee dps the choices are very limited. We need at least need to 7 fun jobs.

I'm tickled at the fact that you only have 1 job and claim that all the current jobs including the 6 you don't have, are not great/not fun. I enjoy being a Bard. "It's the easiest," "It's OP," "bla bla bla." I have fun with the archer based classes. Sure its my only Job currently but its more than enough that I like it.

[Whiz]

I'm tickled at the fact that you only have 1 job and claim that all the current jobs including the 6 you don't have, are not great/not fun. I enjoy being a Bard. "It's the easiest," "It's OP," "bla bla bla." I have fun with the archer based classes. Sure its my only Job currently but its more than enough that I like it.

Well again that's my opinion but I have 50 drg and yeah its fun but i'm not blown away. The positional requirements needed to pull off powerful sustained dps take a lot away from the Job imo. I'm lving BRD also i'm 30 atm Its not the greatest either imo. I had about 4 top lv jobs in FF11 COR and BLU were my favorites I'm hoping to see these soon also in 14.

[DawgPilez]

I was thinking: what if they blended blue mage, ninja, and 'killer' effects in ffix. Basically, while I enjoy learning skills from mobs, that wouldn't be implemented. Instead, take a ninja, and give them skills that have 'killer' affects for specific types of mobs. The 'killer' affects can yield unique beneficial effects or debuffs on the specific enemies. It would be a type of melee hunter in this sort of regard. I wouldn't want this class to have a 'killer' effect for every mob, just some of the popular ones. You can still have your evasive tank the 'killer' affects were standardized into a specific buff/debuff.


In short; make a magi-ninja with 'killer' skills (FFIX) that affect specific mob groups. No BLU for this game. RDM is 'yes'. DRK is 'yes'. IDK about SAM, but it seems reasonable.

This coming from someone that played FFXI because of BLU.

[Kyreanna]

You have to keep in mind that no one plays classes past lv 30. Its all about the Jobs. Classes are inferior to Jobs. We only have about 7 jobs atm and they aren't that great. We only have 2tank/2heals/3rng/2melee dps the choices are very limited. We need at least need 7 more fun jobs.

As I'm reading this I realize you missed my point entirely. It's not about the transition from class to job (something that's so obvious why would you even mention this /endflame). My point is regarding the fact that the design of the game is such that we don't need nearly as many Jobs as FF has had traditionally. As I stated, Bard and Ranger have been combined to a single job. Smn/Sch are essentially the same Job mechanics with a different role focus. Also take into account that cross-class mechanics basically hand you what SE believes are the essential abilities of TWO sub-jobs (not the lower-leveled half of 1 job like FFXI).

My point is, there is no need for the RDM of tradition that we know and love, so if they're going to add a RDM, it should be unique among the other mages.
Back to OP topic: I'm not so sure about the viability of a BLU in a game with shortened, level-based spell lists. How many spells should BLU learn? How many would be viable in a given fight? How would those spells differ from what's already available to the 3 mages already active?

[catch22atplay]

No we don't want Blue Mage asap. Let's fix all the issues first. They can screw up the game in 5 years when they add Blue Mage and Dancer.

[LionKing]

I see no point to chime back in the conversation. I actually posted this to put it out there so it could be discussed but I thought i was dealing with adults. I wanted to have a meaningful discussion about the concepts of how a BLU could be implemented in 14 since it was a very fun and popular job in 11 that a majority of players loved. Also its a job type(vampire/power stealing melee dps mage) that is not in the game yet. Of course everyone has their own opinion but the babies are just throwing insults just because they assume if you have a good discussion that some how it will affect their favorite job from coming out 1st which is just sad lol. I'll probably start a new thread later on for people who want to have a real discussion about the blue mage topic.
Also I found this link that Yoshi says of course there will be a version of BLU in 14 (I'm just hoping its the FF11 version or something close) along with possibly Drk,thf,nin and Sam. Its in the 2nd question asked to Yoshi.

http://jpgames.de/2013/02/final-fant...naoki-yoshida/

May you should re-read your OP. I have seen no word discuss nor anywhere in your post or your title that would suggest this is a constructive topic. Rather I see a demanding and you even give them the deadline. Are you their manager? Heck, You don't even say how the class should be implemented or be played. All you ask is demanding like a child demand his toy ASAP, yet you blame others for not having an adult discusss? Be an adult yourself first before criticize others.


And no I am not new to FF series, have been a fan of Squaresoft since ff7. I would rather have a completely NEW class rather than having a mimic class with different name.

[Strahdvz]

No disrespect intended by this. I'm a vet XI player that stopped after the Adoulin expansion and moved onto XIV. I played blue mage on XI, it was quirky and fun, I do not want to see a reheated version of that in XIV at all. If you want a XI bluemage so terribly guess what...XI is still live. Fire up that account you have/had and give it hell. New game, new classes/jobs, {yes please}