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  1. #41
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    flclownsu's Avatar
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    Simon Gidian
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I find garuda hm to be very easy as SMN as long as you can communicate with others (so really just fc but some pug's are not narcissists). All you need is to tri-disaster the plumes when they spawn and they'll blow up before the bind ends so the only plumes we have to deal with are the perimiter spawns
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  2. #42
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    Sudboyz's Avatar
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    Thya Jaab
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 31
    Quote Originally Posted by savant07 View Post
    I'm pretty sure summoners will be the most wanted DPS as soon as people realize they are doing 30-50% more than any other DPS, yes including bards. They are insanely good. Ignore the fact that yes, maybe they don't have burst (though they have Fester but that takes 7.5 sec or Bane for AoE), but their single target is off the charts insane. Not to mention they can DPS as well as bards in movement intensive fights with pets PLUS DoTs still doing damage and even Ruin II.
    Minus the fact that parsers are misreading dots... So the parses are wildly inaccurate (unless they fixed the combat logging issue which i haven't seen yet).
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  3. #43
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    Celestine's Avatar
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    Celestine Waverunner
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by hyachona View Post
    Which is funny bc if you flip the popularity list around you get the heirarchy of dps (almost, some would argue blm over lancer)
    So bards are the worst dps? uh no
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  4. #44
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    Cimegs5088's Avatar
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    Cimegs Sidatto
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I think before they fix the GL buff for monk, it's GL playing a monk.

    my fc has over 100 peeps and we haven't got 1 monk besides a friend of mine who just joined and played a monk because we're lacking one (instead of bard which he initially wanted)
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  5. #45
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    Troggy's Avatar
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    Troggy Reborn
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainsford View Post
    The problem is that most SMN's I've seen have no idea what they are doing. Using Garuda to clear trash instead of Ifirt?
    aaaand I stopped reading there.
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  6. #46
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    bubbleshuffle's Avatar
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    Ivinora Sage
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    Leviathan
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    Miner Lv 19
    Least wanted is definitely monk. I would say bard is the most sought after.
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  7. #47
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    Logic4u's Avatar
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    David Cox
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoterius View Post
    You know the parser is messed up right now for summoners... it counts ALL the DoTs of the whole group into the Summoners DPS for some reason. They really need to fix that.
    On my Summoner my dots alone are +100dps (average tick of +300 ever 3 secs), Garuda avgs +50dps. I won't bother to add in ruin and fester dps.
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  8. #48
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    Logic4u's Avatar
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    David Cox
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 50
    [QUOTE=Shikiseki;1372784]As a SMN, I feel really unpopular...
    For example the Garuda fight.... why the heck should I keep "Ruin"ing one the clones just to appear like I try to nuke it (or the plumes) if I could deal much more damage by applying the 3 main DoTs+Disease to all 3 Garudas?? (since I know my burst is crap)
    And on top of that, you get yelled for not actively attacking anything if you have to constantly swift-revive people because you notice the healers are busy to keep the party alive. (even with Aetherflow, we can run out of mp rather quickly with the raising you know..). And on top of THAT, you should micromanage the pet for the max potential. Too much utility lol.


    Quick tip: Plumes are summoned after teleport generally, be ready to spread your diseases at the moment. Instantly placing dots on plumes ftw. Now feel free to "ruin" to you hearts content.
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  9. #49
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    coffeerox's Avatar
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    Navi Swiftstrike
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    tier list:

    A - Summoner, Bard
    B - Black Mage, Dragoon
    C - Monk

    Summoners are just so good right now. It's not an easy class to play or grasp, however it's very rewarding once you get the hang of it. The options you get as a Summoner are SO ridiculous right now. Aetherflow combos give you different ways to deal with different situations. Then there's your pets. Do you need to offtank something or tank a Fate boss? Titan-Egi. Does the boss fight do a lot of AOE attacks and require a lot of avoiding? Garuda-Egi. Are you able to get near 100% uptime w/o your pet getting killed in melee range? Ifrit-Egi. He does more damage than Garuda and has a pocket stun for you to use.

    With Summoners, we got everything. We can throw the whole book at em. There's no option that we don't got. We can side heal, heal ourselves to offload tasks from the healer and we can battle rez to save the group. We have the added benefit of switching to SCH and be a healer if the FC calls for it.
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  10. #50
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    Risbyn Marujido
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Logic4u View Post
    On my Summoner my dots alone are +100dps (average tick of +300 ever 3 secs), Garuda avgs +50dps. I won't bother to add in ruin and fester dps.
    Still won't get you over 300 DPS like a lot of these SMNs are claiming. Parser is wholly inaccurate and shouldn't be used as a measuring stick until we get the developer API for addons later on in the year. Then and ONLY then will we start to see real numbers on parsers.
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