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  1. #251
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    ventlus's Avatar
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    Mizu Hana
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by jdnyc View Post
    I'm a little confused about what SCH players realistically want. Is it stacking buffs? Spammable AoE? AoE that heals for more?Better pet AI, so you don't have to manually control it?

    Is playing a scholar that challenging that these things need to be implemented? Or is it players looking for excuses for not having the skill to compete?

    The scholars I've healed with seem to do okay.
    Just wondered.
    no its retarded easy, i think scholars are better healers then whm's personally :<. Just a little lack in the aoe department but hey their 2 different classes
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  2. #252
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    Sylvanna's Avatar
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    Sylv Hoshimachi
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Eh, I just want the stupid skill speed buff to be auto-casted tbh. One less thing to watch because I'm lazy.

    Edit: and bad.
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  3. #253
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    toussaint89's Avatar
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    Disir Eir
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    Gilgamesh
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    Ninja Lv 60
    scholars can out heal whm very easily. I do it all the time on my sch. You key bind the fairies heals so you get control over embrace and use it on whoever you want when you want. My succor heals for 400 a hit plus the 400 bubble so that is basically an 800 heal. So if you need to heal 2 targets at once lets say the tank and a dps. You heal the tank while you make your fairie heal the dps. Simple as that, ladies and gents. Scholars are very powerful healers when played correctly.

    Also, healing macros so you don't have to target to heal=op.
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  4. #254
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    Maku Haikasu
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    Mateus
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    I can with very much all the confidence in the world can say that most of us SCHs want our freakn fairies to not switch from Steady to Guard every time you force a skill. Other than this (which is really only an annoyance since you can in actually hit Steady after EVERY SINGLE EMBRACE) I can't think of anything that is horribly wrong with the SCH Job. ^^
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  5. #255
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    Crescent_Dusk's Avatar
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    Crescent Dusk
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by toussaint89 View Post
    scholars can out heal whm very easily. I do it all the time on my sch. You key bind the fairies heals so you get control over embrace and use it on whoever you want when you want. My succor heals for 400 a hit plus the 400 bubble so that is basically an 800 heal. So if you need to heal 2 targets at once lets say the tank and a dps. You heal the tank while you make your fairie heal the dps. Simple as that, ladies and gents. Scholars are very powerful healers when played correctly.

    Also, healing macros so you don't have to target to heal=op.
    Nobody's complaining about spot healing. They're complaining about succor.

    Great, your Succor heals for 800 at Darklight+AF2 (it sure as hell ain't healing for 400 even in Darklight standards). The WHM's Medica II just healed for double or triple of that amount.

    It's the fact that in a single GCD a WHM can put out an aoe heal that takes the scholar 3 GCD's (the shields don't stack either, so after repeating the cast you waste half the potency of the spell) while not tank healing.

    All the WHM needs to do is a Medica II+Medica and that alone will top off the raid in most circumstances. Succor doesn't come close to that.
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  6. #256
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    Disir Eir
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    Nobody's complaining about spot healing. They're complaining about succor.

    Great, your Succor heals for 800 at Darklight+AF2 (it sure as hell ain't healing for 400 even in Darklight standards). The WHM's Medica II just healed for double or triple of that amount.

    It's the fact that in a single GCD a WHM can put out an aoe heal that takes the scholar 3 GCD's (the shields don't stack either, so after repeating the cast you waste half the potency of the spell) while not tank healing.

    All the WHM needs to do is a Medica II+Medica and that alone will top off the raid in most circumstances. Succor doesn't come close to that.
    Idk where you are getting your information but media is only hitting for 100-200 more healing then what my succor does which isn't much. Plus medica doesn't mitigate damage like succor does. Mitigating 400 damage is alot more important then getting an extra 100-200 heal. Also medica 2 has 50 more cure potency than succor so idk how its healing for double or triple for the initial heal. It puts a hot on the target guess what so does your fairy
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    Last edited by toussaint89; 10-05-2013 at 12:14 AM.

  7. #257
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    BrodyAlgana's Avatar
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    Brody Algana
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I don't get it I guess. I ran on my Bard with a scholar the other day - never had before, cause he was still under 30 and had been whm before. So I had worked mostly with conjurors before as DPS or I was the healer. the scholar did awesome - his healing was definately on par with what mine was at that level. So I guess you want stronger aoe heals... then be a white mage. It seems to me they intended for white mage to be stronger AOE healer.. its not a bad thing that classes are different...if they were all the same playing alts would be boring. I don't mind them making changes to the class, but why make the basically another white mage?
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  8. #258
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    Celsius Vee
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    lol what?medica hits for about 850-900 medica 2 heals for triple because, (heres the kicker) its better actual mitigation than succor since it adds a raidwide HoT so you can use it before big damage and combine that with a medica. i can chaincast succor and waste 1500+ mana. your WHMS must be terrible.


    Edit: Brody i wish you would read the thread instead of what the first OP said. Nobody here agreed with that. NOBODY people are so just ugh these days. cant read more than a page
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    Last edited by Celsius; 10-05-2013 at 02:15 AM.

  9. #259
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    Sebelain Vernet
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    AoE healing is indeed sub par. First time I went in turn 2 I brought my SCH and I instantly regretted it. Toward the end the AoE is high and despite spamming Succor, our WHM got OOM having to compensate for my weak AoE. Since then it's been WHM all the way in Turn 2 and it got noticeably easier. It's in fact not a challenge at all with 2 WHM.

    Same goes for Titan, I have no idea why people bring SCH and WHM instead of 2 WHM, nothing beats 2 Medica 2s for the stomp. Titan with 2 WHM for AoE healing is easy mode.

    Now I'm not saying SCH is bad, I prefer it in Turn 1 and 4 for tank healing even tough they need to just give us all the fucking control on the pet, but this thread is about AoE and yes, SCH AoE is sub par.
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  10. #260
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    Celsius Vee
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    This thread is about Aoe.

    Let me say it agian.

    THIS THREAD IS ABOUT AOE

    THREAD

    THIS

    AOE.

    lmfao.
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