SE Banning players with large amounts of gil?

[scarebearz]

I have a feeling that their reason to remove all your money is that they noticed you profited almost all of it from gil buyers. That's the only reasonable thing I can think of if your alt got to keep everything.

Most of my sales were in the 2k-10k region, for the first 5mil, then my sales varied from 2k-70k.

I was selling on the market faster than I could craft the items for the most part.

So for your theory to be correct, 99% of the server buying low-mid value items would have to be gil buyers.

[Uveck]

So these Devs let RMTs run rampant and then they punish legitimate players.

They slacked on RMT bans, now they slacked on an investigation. They slack on AOE issues and the list goes on.

Just a bunch of slackers. Takes one to know one.

[Esmond]

By the looks of the situation there were never any human looking into our accounts ever. Everything done was automated.

[scarebearz]

My story is extremely similar, although I made more like 5.5 before I started crafting 2-star gear. I made at least 2M on electrum gear in the first week, selling full sets for 90k each - RMT didn't even exist yet, there weren't any city shouts... I can't understand how that gil is removed, and why the folks who spent millions of gil on gear I made for them are still unbanned and still wearing the gear they essentially stole from me.

We don't even know if the 2 star buyers were gil buyers, or if we were just suspended because of the gil we had. Maybe those who report to have 10mil+ on no legacy servers kept it in the retainers?

By the looks of the situation there were never any human looking into our accounts ever. Everything done was automated.

Exactly my point, I *want* a GM to investiagte my account, but it's impossible to contact one, email/phone/chat support don't want to know. Mods on here don't care either.

[Raenryong]

You know what? I'm incredibly angry about this and I wasn't even affected.

What the hell, Square Enix - what the hell? You have shoutspamming RMT bots running amok for hours/days on end, teleporting bots having the time of their lives just gathering copious amounts of items, and yet you not only wrongfully suspend the innocent but then punish them for a crime of which they are innocent with no proper investigation?

This is one of the most abominable things I've seen in my time playing games. This is completely and utterly unacceptable. You're trying to recreate A Realm Reborn's image? It is going to be tarnished by your actions here - you are treating innocent paying customers worse than the RMT infestations!

You need to resolve this, and quickly - nobody is going to want to play a game where everything you work for can be removed from you for arbitrary reasons.

I am very angry, and everyone else reading this thread should be too - whether you are affected or not. Because in a way, we're all affected. Collateral damage in the "war" against the RMT is not acceptable.

[Reiia]

I thought NEXON was bad, but at this rate i don't know man. Im about to say i had more fun times on a NEXON game... and that is like saying you had fun at the DMV instead of playing FFXIV >.> ;

[LunaticWoda]

Well Im just not going to resub. A big part of a MMO for me besides being fun. Is how well a companies customers relations are and its clear is god awful. I wasn't effected by this situation but clearly if anything every happens in the future to my account its clear I will just be screwed. The systematic screwing of so many people is disgusting. That and if they had GM's they easily could have them bouncing from town to town for each server is perma banning the RMT people in the towns. Clearly thats to challenging of a task let alone investigating people with gil and doing anything remotely close to anything that looks correct.

[RubenSnizzle]

They did said anyone that bought or got their item bought from RMT got their gil removed from that, so even if they divided your gold by 100, it could of been some one that bought from an RMT, then bought you items, which result the same, as if an RMT bought your items.

[Alcyon_Densetsu]

They did said anyone that bought or got their item bought from RMT got their gil removed from that, so even if they divided your gold by 100, it could of been some one that bought from an RMT, then bought you items, which result the same, as if an RMT bought your items.

In such a case, the sale should be nullified: that means the item in question should be given back to their original seller, as if nothing ever happened. There is no justification for depriving a legit player from both the product of a sale AND the object of the sale. It's either one or the other, that is, if this game's world is to be fair.

[Tarubaby]

Cross-posted from the other thread for visibility.

Here's what leaves a really sour taste in my mouth:

Items and GIL obtained illegally through 3rd party tools or RMT activities can affect the game’s economic stability, and can disrupt the game play balance. Some 3rd party programs contain viruses and spyware, which can be harmful to other players unbeknownst to the 3rd party program user. This can lead to a leak of a user’s personal data, character deletion, or other unfortunate circumstances. We have a zero tolerance policy for RMT.

It has been basically signed, sealed and delivered that we're all guilty; even if we're not. You guys can argue our innocence until you're blue in the face, but WE (and the people who know us) know we're innocent. The problem truly is the statement above. If Square-Enix has a ZERO TOLERANCE policy towards RMT we ALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN BANNED PERMANENTLY! We shouldn't have had our gil divided by 100, we shouldn't be off suspension, WE SHOULD BE GONE.

Square-Enix still wants our subscription money, but they're going to do everything in their power to make our gameplay experience a poor one. This really is the issue at hand. We've paid for our games, now they want our subscription dollars. I implore you, if you were hit by this blanket banwave (and yes, that's exactly what it was) to NOT SUBSCRIBE. Vote with your wallets and show that being a terrible company will not be tolerated.

Direct actions of this arbitrary decision for me include:
* Cancelling of service accounts on both my and and my girlfriends accounts.
* Several friends will not be renewing their memberships past this first month.
* Cancelled pre-orders for Final Fantasy X/X-2 remake and Lightning Returns
* Cancelled pre-order for launch bundle of Playstation 4 from Amazon (I was literally only going to use it as a FFXIV backup anyways)
* I, and a number of my real life friends, will not be purchasing another Square-Enix product EVER.

I hope that those of you who have the power in your hands to make such financial decisions think about what you're supporting.

We have no power to do anything ingame. Our gil is gone; deleted. If we contact Square-Enix "technical" Support we'll get another canned response about how they have no power to change anything and it's all "the people overseas". We can, however, make this a focal point for our future purchasing decisions.

Those of you who didn't get swept up in this: enjoy the game; seriously. But I hope that EACH AND EVERY PERSON who was dragnetted into this will not support Square-Enix ever again. You and I and everyone else deserve more than this from a company.