Titan Hard Primal Battle. To Hard? Or To Laggy?

[Radacci]

It's laggy for some i guess, but some are just terrible players
I was held back for around 2 weeks, cause ppl just can't seem to dodge stuff.
Then we got enough ppl in FC to clear up to Titan, and bam we farm him. Killed him 5 times in an evening, and got 9 ppl through.
It's just about doing it with people that practiced the fight many times, in pug or whatever, so you know all the moves.
When you know all the mechanics it's quite easy.

From what i hear titan stomps more times, the longer the fight goes on; so if you build LB to much, you'll probably wipe after heart, cause he's stomping some 7 times.
You need good DPS, not build LB. With good DPS a single bar of LB is enough to take down heart. If you can't do it like that, you're probably going to fail the DPS race after heart anyways.
There's the option of tank LB for later stomp spam too.

Don't buy wins...it doesn't solve anything. If you need to buy win for Titan, you're going to have to buy win for every turn of coil, CT, Bahamut, Primal Extreme, and every new content that comes a long; and every time you want to clear one of those contents, you'll have to pay someone...you're going to end up broke in no-time.
Just get a bunch of nice ppl together, and stick with it.
Teamspeak or some such, does wonders too, with someone telling Titan skill rotation, and telling ppl what to do; the fight becomes a breeze.

[silentwindfr]

the trouble is not really the lag, it's a trouble true but not the main one, it's the fact you need to know the pattern of the boss perfectly for be ready to avoid everything coming. and if you miss one dodge, passed p3 is dead. no one must die if you want to do it. it's a survival battle that recquire you to be at the top for 10-15 minutes.
- is that hard? not really
- why people don't do it? because an error is fatal in this fight, no death, no error allowed.
- do the lag make the combat harder? yep, if you lag a lot it will make it near impossible to do it. mostly because you are not allowed to do an error.
- do it need a nerf? maybe reduce a little the damage, something like 5% for allow the uncontrollable error (spike of lag)

by the way doing it in DF can be very hard because you got 2 tank when only one is needed, making it harder to do it.

[Freyane]

From Europe the lag is very heavy. I myself had often no way to dodge its AOE. I was 5 steps outside of the zone but still got hit. The same for the gaol : very often my character is stuck outside of the goal, frozen 3 steps away because the server consider my character is in the gaol, while on my screen I'm 3 steps away.

There is nothing to do but to think that this game wasn't designed for us.

[prymortal]

Hard...No, Difficult... Yes It can be if you cant dodge.

LAGGY.... VERY!!!!
Welcome to my world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFfu0i89gpI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5g4TM1fkCg

After weeks of Lagg, Which I shouldnt have to put up with! Since we complained about this enough with Ifrit in 1.0.
& The other primals with Lagg are not as bad as Titan ~ Although i cant properly/acceptably to the DF's Standards tank Garuda due to lagg/Slipstream. But that doesnt make it un-doable Like Titan.

*But if you practice for weeks & know the rotations you can dodge almost anything in Titan EXCEPT PLUMES. they will get you final phase Everytime!

New Zealand 360ms ping so some lagg is to be expected. Although Tera on EU server is 450ms ping to 600ms ping & bearly laggs for a second & the fights are doable with it, BEcause its not 3 seconds+ at times like ARR.

Going through my Western Server I now play at 160ms Ping & Its much better!! Except Titan still laggs as bad as 360ms ping connection!

The ARR Team need to fix it, or fix the fight. then adjust the extreme one for people who claim they have good connections.

[MusouMugen]

Didn't read other replies but to answer the post topic question:

Too laggy. That's it. A bit of DPS race in heart phase, but I wouldn't say that's hard.

As for healers and AOE, pretty much the only AOE party takes 100% is the stomp. Every other AOE can be avoided, every, reliably (well, if not for stupid ass lagfest that is FF14 for us unfortunates).

[Teleniel]

1 Tank *should* be enough to hold Titan. You will need to know what you'll have to eat for party safety and how to manage cooldowns to reduce the damage you take / recover the HP you lost.
4 DPS *should* be enough to clear heart, without using Limit Break. This is assuming they're all geared and playing up to potential. No I don't mean they need to already have Relic, but having at least Ifrit's weapon, Garuda's is better and minimum ilvl 60 in each slot.
2 Healer *should* be enough to keep everyone up. This is assuming everyone has 3k+ (3.5k better) HP, and there are rotations to reduce damage from Table Flip on the tank (Str Down, Virus, Rain of Death etc.).

The Duty Finder is NOT your friend for this fight. Find a group of people, try for an hour, take a break, go back and try again. Plan to get together again tomorrow. Even if you don't see these people after you clear you can work together to make sure everyone is on the same page.

[Hikozaemon]

the major problem most people have is weight of the land. Its cast time is rather fast(prob too fast if u have latency at all). Most groups prepare for thsi by having the tank call it or call it ahead of time so u can start moving out to anticipate it and dodge. This fight just requires everyone to dodge and to do it well. its not a dps race(besides the heart) some people need to slow down and just focus on living and they would be a lot more successful in this fight. I think though truthfully SE needs to slightly increase weight of the lands cast time. by at least .5secs.

[silentwindfr]

i think the best change for make it... less impacted by the lag is to increase cast time of weigt of earth of 1 second, what do you think?

[Thanor]

I found Titan HM very difficult too, but I did it after about 10 hours of practice with a static group. THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL NEED. You need a static group to practice with. Everyone needs to know what they're doing and how to do it. The problem arise after heart phase. If you don't get past heart phase then you're just doing something wrong. We were all using RaidCall (voice chat) to communicate and we had one guy who had memorized the rotation and called out a coupe of seconds before which attack was gonna come next. I think this is very crucial for completition. (1000 character limit) tbc...

[Thanor]

It took us 10 hours, even while knowing which attack was going to come and how to dodge it. We decided how to avoid the plumes after heart phase. Because they spawn after tumult under every player and if everyone's spread out, no one will survive. This is one of the most crucial points of survival. If you don't know how to survive the plumes post heart phase then you can't do it. We all gathered in middle during tumult, used AoE heals and then SPLIT just at the exact moment when titan cast plumes. Everyone comes out without taking any dmg and with full health because of AoE heals. You also need to know how to avoid the "row bombs". You get near the middle bomb, because titan is going to use landslide during this, so you will have to avoid that most likely. If you're in the middle you will be able to avoid it in every situation. When he hits landslide, you MOVE at the exact same moment to the middle and you will escape with full health. Master this and you're good to go.