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    A question, why do you think this is ruining the game?

    Also how are the node hackers benefiting from this. As a BTN and MIN, I see them all around me, but I am unaffected. I actually think what they are doing is pointless. If anything, all the warping around is doing is saving them a few seconds on travel time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    A question, why do you think this is ruining the game?

    Also how are the node hackers benefiting from this. As a BTN and MIN, I see them all around me, but I am unaffected. I actually think what they are doing is pointless. If anything, all the warping around is doing is saving them a few seconds on travel time.
    How is it ruining the game?
    1.Well if you can have a bot running 24/7 farming mats you can afford to sell them cheaper as you have 0 time invested in collecting them thereby hurting the economy which will in the end ruin the game. I think you may not be seeing the real use of this. If I had a bot running I would be gathering while I work, sleep whatever and be gaining a huge advantage over you. If you don't see an advantage go look at the prices of mats in the AH then tell me they are wasting their time by having this run all night...

    2. Having a method of placing your character at any place in the zone through use of a hack/glitch gives an unfair advantage to the players using it and people will get tired of this and leave the game, I mean why would you pay for a subscription to a mmo that is overrun by bots of all types and not real players. You wont be able to afford repairs in a economy like this.

    I really love playing this game and think the overall design is awesome but I have real concerns about how this is playing out and the lack of response from SE. Here again a little communication about the issue and what they plan to do would go a long way with me and help alleviate some of my concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brojam View Post
    How is it ruining the game?
    1.Well if you can have a bot running 24/7 farming mats you can afford to sell them cheaper as you have 0 time invested in collecting them thereby hurting the economy which will in the end ruin the game. I think you may not be seeing the real use of this. If I had a bot running I would be gathering while I work, sleep whatever and be gaining a huge advantage over you. If you don't see an advantage go look at the prices of mats in the AH then tell me they are wasting their time by having this run all night...
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    I can see this to be an issue for those who dont gather their own mats.
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brojam View Post
    How is it ruining the game?
    1.Well if you can have a bot running 24/7 farming mats you can afford to sell them cheaper as you have 0 time invested in collecting them thereby hurting the economy which will in the end ruin the game. I think you may not be seeing the real use of this. If I had a bot running I would be gathering while I work, sleep whatever and be gaining a huge advantage over you. If you don't see an advantage go look at the prices of mats in the AH then tell me they are wasting their time by having this run all night...
    One of the original features of V1 was a way to prevent this, but it was also basically a slap in the face to people who actually play for long periods of time legitimately. The way to "solve", and by "solve" I mean nerf, botting is to make inappropriate gear wear out (crystals only require the level 1 starter gear, but you can't start Mining/Botany until level 10, I followed bots around today and it took them less than 4 hours to hit level 10, then they all logged off.) So a player that is harvesting/mining with newbie gear, will have that gear wear out rapidly.

    To solve the bots going after the crystals... well that's an entirely other problem. One thing they're certainly doing is acquiring the crystals from all the quest givers by joining the guilds, this has to be eliminated. The guildmasters should give the player just enough materials to do the level 5/10/15 quest they give, and require the finished product to signed by them before allowing the player to "level up" those crafting skills. The harvesting ones likewise should not level up unless a quest has been completed by the guildmaster. These are basically one-time "level cap quests", and unfortunately the idea comes from Mabinogi because that's exactly the point of the cap quests (to prevent powerleveling by botting.) Players didn't like having to constantly do the cap quests (despite being every 5 levels.)

    Ultimately we can't just throw technical solutions on this. SE could hire a few players that fill out accurate helpful reports and give them someone to email/im/skype directly with to kill bots quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    A question, why do you think this is ruining the game?

    Also how are the node hackers benefiting from this. As a BTN and MIN, I see them all around me, but I am unaffected. I actually think what they are doing is pointless. If anything, all the warping around is doing is saving them a few seconds on travel time.
    Think before you post. They are doing this without stop, 24 hours a day, flooding the market with mats to sell for gil to sell to other players that have no sense. Meanwhile, legit players can't make any gil themselves because the market for their items is now in the toilet.
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