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  1. #181
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    t00nc3ss's Avatar
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    Zaelya Whiskersons
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kroktar View Post
    By the way if you still believe Bards are the highest dps why dont look goods BLM/SMN threads? http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...dps-vs-BLM-dps

    QQ
    Unreliable and well known faulty parser? Check.
    Completely immobile target dummy? Check
    Casting classes not having to worry about moving and disrupting cast times? Check

    So, under nigh improbable conditions that would never ever make it into actual gameplay, a broken parser that cannot calculate nor differentiate DoTs correctly, gives numbers proving BRDs aren't top DPS and it is now all of a sudden undeniable proof that you're not OP?

    Geezus, the hilarity of flimsy BRD excuses and "proof" continues.
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    ~- Tanking is Skill | Healing is Art | DPS is Science -~

  2. #182
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    7thPawn's Avatar
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    Seraphia Rhin
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 52
    As a bard from the old days of XI, I can say that when I wanted to play a bard, I wanted to play a bard. In this game, this is not what I wanted to play. As Jayded said "Highest dps, highest mobility, best support". Truth be told though, hit for hit I do less than when I hit something with my Drg, but then again I don't have to move. So the DPS evens out if not goes higher on Bard cause I can shoot on the move. As I had said before in a previous post..., I can tank some dungeon bosses as a Bard. First time was by accident but I have reproduced the feat. It is incredible how such a normal class that is even with every other DPS can accomplish that. I was a Bard, and I am one now. I hit too hard, I am too mobile, and my songs are an afterthought rather than the primary abilities of the class. I can authoritatively say I have every advantage, and I have no downsides. My songs should be what I am about.
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  3. #183
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    Mushashi Miyamoto
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    Moogle
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by 7thPawn View Post
    I can authoritatively say I have every advantage, and I have no downsides. My songs should be what I am about.
    last time that i gonna post as bards seems think that they are fine(best dps in the game,best movility,best support)but this dude couldnt write it better
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  4. #184
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    Kroktar's Avatar
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    Kroktar Thalius
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by t00nc3ss View Post
    Unreliable and well known faulty parser? Check.
    Completely immobile target dummy? Check
    Casting classes not having to worry about moving and disrupting cast times? Check

    So, under nigh improbable conditions that would never ever make it into actual gameplay, a broken parser that cannot calculate nor differentiate DoTs correctly, gives numbers proving BRDs aren't top DPS and it is now all of a sudden undeniable proof that you're not OP?

    Geezus, the hilarity of flimsy BRD excuses and "proof" continues.
    BLM unreliable? Cant you see your own dmg ticks on SMN?
    Those arent Melee doesnt have to move like crazy unless its titan...Ifrit? No..Garuda? No..Coils 1-3? No.

    Besides you should know that Monk DPS its not that bad :') but here are your tears.
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  5. #185
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    t00nc3ss's Avatar
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    Zaelya Whiskersons
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7thPawn View Post
    I hit too hard, I am too mobile, and my songs are an afterthought rather than the primary abilities of the class. I can authoritatively say I have every advantage, and I have no downsides. My songs should be what I am about.
    Holy hot damn, a Bard that actually speaks truth. You are the sole glimmer of hope I have for the entire Bard playerbase.
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    ~- Tanking is Skill | Healing is Art | DPS is Science -~

  6. #186
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    I like that most of the people who thinks bards are not OP are playing bards themselves. It has to say something... Like eighter they themselves do not see the problem as they do not have to change class to be able to join groups outside of DF. Or they deny that truth... OR (the most unlikely, but I still bring it up as we need to take all possibilities into account /sarcasm) they know more about how bards works than those who play other classes do.

    I do however agree that melee is underpowered right now. The content availiable and especially late game is tipping very heavily to their disadvantage. A good balanced RPG shall have content where all classes shine.
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  7. #187
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    Blaste's Avatar
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    Silentlock Knight
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    Midgardsormr
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    Bard Lv 60
    Wow, so much QQing in a single thread about people complaining because they don't do as much damage as a bard, why don't people realize that Nerfs are the last thing that MMO devs want to do? Its not as simple as throwing a switch or hitting a big nerf button, with a game like FFXIV that is already walking a fairly thin tightrope putting a nerf out on a class could have serious consequences. Some of which could result on a mass number of players just leaving, and I could care less about what people think on the subject of "going back to wow" or "we don't need players like that anyway" so friggin laughable, the MMO genre is all about numbers, if they don't maintain those numbers then they don't have a game. In otherwords think long and hard about screaming for nerf's cause you might just be shooting yourself in the foot in the process, wait 6 months then see how the classes/gear balance themselves out.
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  8. #188
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    Kroktar's Avatar
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    Kroktar Thalius
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by mushashi View Post
    sure that it is working fine for u,easiest class to play and best dps on the game with the best support skills.of course that u dont want nerfs.
    bards are OP and everybody who isnt bard know it and say it(even some bards),they need get a dps nerf, or movility nerf,or buffs nerf.
    and btw i agree that paladin are OP and yes i want a nerf to pld or a buff to warrior(on this case it is better a buff because it is only onejob,with bards we cant ask for bufs to 5 jobs it is easier enrf to the OP job)
    but thats another thread, and there is no point nerfing paladins because even they have bad times on bosses...So a buff on Warriors would be better...

    This is the same with melee...Monks need more utility and DRGs need an overhaul on jumps
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  9. #189
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    Kroktar Thalius
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by t00nc3ss View Post
    Holy hot damn, a Bard that actually speaks truth. You are the sole glimmer of hope I have for the entire Bard playerbase.
    ARCHER Lv 38 You won again...ROFL
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  10. #190
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    Seraphia Rhin
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 52
    Once upon a time a Bard was responsible for the success and failure of exp runs, raids, and runs for precious equipment. I was with the party that were the first North Americans to see the end of the XI storyline through the Dynamis'. I lead the highest exp runs that people had seen in my time. I kept my guild, and many others alive through many years of play. What us few did took skill, and required songs to be weaved into an artform. Any idiot can DPS. It takes an artist to debuff mobs in different ways, sleep others, buff my party in multiple ways, and keep the MP flowing all at once. I was a puppet master conducting the most amazing orchestra an MMO ever saw, sometimes with over 120 people on the battlefield with me. Things got slaughtered because of people like me. That is my Legacy. Us bards here that SE has given us in XIV, are a pale echo of the Legacy that my comrades and I left behind from XI.
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