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    7thPawn's Avatar
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    Seraphia Rhin
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 52
    Once upon a time a Bard was responsible for the success and failure of exp runs, raids, and runs for precious equipment. I was with the party that were the first North Americans to see the end of the XI storyline through the Dynamis'. I lead the highest exp runs that people had seen in my time. I kept my guild, and many others alive through many years of play. What us few did took skill, and required songs to be weaved into an artform. Any idiot can DPS. It takes an artist to debuff mobs in different ways, sleep others, buff my party in multiple ways, and keep the MP flowing all at once. I was a puppet master conducting the most amazing orchestra an MMO ever saw, sometimes with over 120 people on the battlefield with me. Things got slaughtered because of people like me. That is my Legacy. Us bards here that SE has given us in XIV, are a pale echo of the Legacy that my comrades and I left behind from XI.
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    Brody Algana
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    Plus, the Bard/Archer Limit Break does SOOOO much DPS... /eyeroll that is why you take other DPS, at least 1 in a 4 man. If we want a healing LB I can do that as WHM....

    I say fine, if you are going to nerf another player (again bad idea in a pve game), then they should also get a DPS LB.
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    Zaelya Whiskersons
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrodyAlgana View Post
    If we want a healing LB I can do that as WHM... <snip> ...then they should also get a DPS LB.
    Very good point, one I completely overlooked.

    Hmm, a healing class, the WHM, having a healing LB, makes complete sense. A Bard, now the foremost mobile DPS and utility class, ALSO has the same healing LB? Even more OP. Thanks, you guys just keep cementing the awful truth you do not want to admit to.

    And hell, the latest posts about parses and now this about Bard getting a DPS LB, were already addressed in a previous post by myself. Coupled with the latest arguments basically asserting that everyone but Bards are wrong and jealous, just makes it crystal clear how much in denial bards are. Same arguments that hold no weight.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...g-soon./page15
    If there are any future arguments not already addressed in Post #146 in the above link (middle of the page) I will be happy to entertain your words and thoughts.

    edit: The Parting Words segment was supposed to be a cheeky joke, but the fact that they have been brought up recently as serious debate points has totally made my day brighter.
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    Last edited by t00nc3ss; 10-03-2013 at 04:46 AM.


    ~- Tanking is Skill | Healing is Art | DPS is Science -~

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    Elegance Ebonheart
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    Tonberry
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by t00nc3ss View Post
    Very good point, one I completely overlooked.

    Hmm, a healing class, the WHM, having a healing LB, makes complete sense. A Bard, now the foremost mobile DPS and utility class, ALSO has the same healing LB? Even more OP. Thanks, you guys just keep cementing the awful truth you do not want to admit to.
    I hope you realise the healer LB isn't exactly a plus?
    In almost every case you'd want a dps LB, there is a reason melee claim they are solely brought for their LB.
    Because thats essentially what you'll want to be using, unless you need the aoe DPS one.
    Of course there will be fringe cases, but you almost never want to be using the heal/archer lb anyway, with its ridiculous cast time.
    Now if they gave archers the melee break... yea that might be a problem.
    I don't think any bard wants to have the healer lb, lol.
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    Kai Sunstrider
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    Mateus
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    Archer Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegance View Post
    I hope you realise the healer LB isn't exactly a plus?
    In almost every case you'd want a dps LB, there is a reason melee claim they are solely brought for their LB.
    Now there are those crazy cases where it comes in handy. During our first titan kill bombs came out and killed everyone that wasn't already dead except for me and the tank at around 10%. The tank was able to pop hallowed ground as i repeling shot myself into the center and aoe rezed the entire raid 1 second before the floor plumes came out. This was the sole reason we got our first titan kill. If I would have had a DPS limit break, that may not have happened. I realize that its an extreme case, but there are times where the healer is dead or too occupied to be able to get off the required cast time for the LB without the tank dying or everyone is already dead. This is where having a non healer with the heal LB comes in handy. Although, I've already said Id much prefer a BRD based buff LB.
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    Zaelya Whiskersons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegance View Post
    <snip>
    Oh no, Haha. I completely agree with you. What I said was concerning the LB and all were to mock the posters lamebrained argument
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    ~- Tanking is Skill | Healing is Art | DPS is Science -~

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    Corwynt Farrell
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 70
    God melee players sound bitter in this game. Nerf the Bard twice if you want, I can imagine you will still be out trying to change things in the game to the way you want it to be.
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    Silentlock Knight
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    Midgardsormr
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by 7thPawn View Post
    Once upon a time a Bard was responsible for the success and failure of exp runs, raids, and runs for precious equipment. I was with the party that were the first North Americans to see the end of the XI storyline through the Dynamis'. I lead the highest exp runs that people had seen in my time. I kept my guild, and many others alive through many years of play.~snip~
    So let me sum up this choir of words, you're mad cause bard is not the same as XI? Using that as a comparison to base your opinion around the Bard in XIV...see there is just one flaw in your logic.... THIS ISN'T FFXI, god these comparisons of XIV to XI are leaving a bad taste in my mouth, its like listening to an elderly person talk about the glory days and then compare how easy it is for you nowadays compared to what they had, or how "better" it was for them. Times are a changing, man up or get out. Plain and simple eh?
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