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  1. #71
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    Darkoray's Avatar
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    Dark Firestorm
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Not sure about much of this.

    You get 100 post a day arguing over which is better.

    They were designed to work hand in hand.

    Long sustained fights hands down SCH has the advantage. Bursts heals goes to the WHM.

    Damage mitigation SCH, AOE Heals WHM.

    You can see the pattern right? Where one falls short the other shines.

    They can both heal just fine it comes down to if you want a unicorn and look good or a fairy and looking like harry potter.

    Any end game player would rather an SCH and WHM to both the same.
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  2. #72
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    Mishayangg's Avatar
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    Captain Cook
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    Spriggan
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    Marauder Lv 72
    Scholar is better.
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  3. #73
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    gigi_frana's Avatar
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    Bauchelain Md
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    So which one would be better for daily AK runs?
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  4. #74
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    Astrid Merle
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by gigi_frana View Post
    So which one would be better for daily AK runs?
    The better group. I'm pretty sure a WHM would be as prone to falling a asleep healing that place as I assuming both given decent groups.
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  5. #75
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    Maku Haikasu
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    Mateus
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by fanservice View Post
    The better group. I'm pretty sure a WHM would be as prone to falling a asleep healing that place as I assuming both given decent groups.
    This.

    On a side note AF look wise I like both but would love an option to put the WHMs hood up (with it hanging of course no pointy straight up) and to remove the SCHs silly mortar board and just have the glasses. ^^
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    可愛い悪魔

  6. #76
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    Mamba's Avatar
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    Lily Spider
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    I am not sure what everyone expects of the pixie...
    I find the AI just fine (for now at least).
    It is really important to place the pixie to the correct place and not just have it hover behind your arse where it will only heal you and maybe the rogue BLM that comes stand next to you.
    In Titan fight, place it next to the tank and when it gets knocked back, put it back there!
    Also who said Succor sucks?!
    I always cast Succor before and middle of Titan Stomps to give that extra HP buffer for everyone - it makes a difference.

    I prefer WHM on things like AK, Holy spam ftw! But for harder content I actually think SCH and WHM make a great team, shouldn't really debate which is better...
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    There is a little Monkey in all of us....

  7. #77
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    abeltensor's Avatar
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    Kudo Nomi
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    After running coil to turn 4 the other night things kinda were put into perspective for me as far as the whole WHM vs Sch argument goes.

    So in coil sch tends to be just a single target healer. You tend to stay on one specific tank and keep with him until some mechanic makes it so you swap to another. In every other fight aside from the coil raid, I've been able to do tons of AoE healing + single target healing where as in coil because the demand for single target is so high that is mostly what you are doing. Here are a list of things that either make up for the lack of full on healing the whm has or need to be changed to bring the sch more in line.
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  8. #78
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    abeltensor's Avatar
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    Kudo Nomi
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    First, you need to get use to casting embrace before every other healing spell cast. Usually, I cast it directly after "the shield spell" (cant spell it) always followed by a physick. Ive talked with my Whm friend. He mentioned that when a tank drops to a certain point it is very hard for his whm to make the tank have his HP raise higher then what its currently at with out blowing the emergancy heal or with out swiftcasting cure 2 followed by more big heals. With scholar it is possible to quickly recover from a big hit with "the shield spell".
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  9. #79
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    Kudo Nomi
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Another thing to think about, in coil no matter what or what healing class you are you will need the bard mana song so aether charges become almost meaningless for mana return. very few instances can you swap to a target and drop a mana drain because of how big the damage is from the mobs. I was finding my self running out of mana about when the Whm was but still this is worth noting since you said you feel like you have infinite mana. Yeah i feel like i have infinite mana if im healing anything other then coil.
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  10. #80
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    Kudo Nomi
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    The lack of shear pure hps vs the whm would at first make you think the sch is not very good vs the whm and you'd be right in area heals and even in emergency single target heals. Lustrate is useless unless you cast it on a warrior since the crit from physick is almost more then 20% of the targets hp. The only times i find my self using Lustrate is if the tank is at like <1k hp and i dont have swift cast.

    I do believe that sch's need to have a few tweeks here and there to bring their healing up to a certain level but mainly if you learn to micro your fairy well and use the proper rotation you can almost out heal a whm with "effective" added HP. Im talking added HP through shields. criting on the "shield heal" for 1.2k gives a 2.4k shield on the target. This is huge. It effectively makes the heal into a 3.6k heal.
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