When you look at it like this how is Warrior a worse tank?

[Coramac]

Looking at videos for Coil 4, a tank must tank two mobs for approximately 1 minute. They auto attack a Paladin for ~1250 every 2.5 seconds and Rotoswipe for ~1700 every 12 seconds. This subjects you to 4-5 bursts during the timeframe with roughly an 7-8 second recovery phase. Using a 5 second burst window which I consider to be most relevant, Pal is looking at 10900 max and War 13625 (depending on how the mob attack align). A 3k IB is only equivalent to a 2400 heal on a Paladin which is roughly identical to what a Rampart would mitigate on the burst... only it mitigates for an additional 15 seconds and the Paladin maintains his passive defenses while the Warrior does not. You cannot cover these bursts with IB. You can cover one with a large IB and maybe one more with a partially buffed IB if you're lucky. Meanwhile, the Paladin is using superior cooldowns on top of a superior passive to provide far superior tanking throughout the whole time of engagement.

[mushashi]

this nin dude is a troll or a fanboy of warriors that cant see the umbalance betwen tanks and only konw harass to the people that dont think as him so only ignore him.

when u read that inner beast heal for 2.5-3k everytime for him u know that he is lying,but of course as he is the best warrior on the world with many worldfirst and the best equipment of the world who knows,maybe that he is healing the double than every warrior

[Ninjiitstu]

Looking at videos for Coil 4, a tank must tank two mobs for approximately 1 minute.

The issue with that particular fight is enmity generation on multiple targets at once. Since soldiers and knights are immune to phys/magic respectively, you have a really tight DPS window. Flash is simply not enough to hold them, and you have to do this multiple times ( in one instance tanking 3-5 mobs ).

when u read that inner beast heal for 2.5-3k everytime for him u know that he is lying,but of course as he is the best warrior on the world with many worldfirst and the best equipment of the world who knows,maybe that he is healing the double than every warrior

English would help me understand you better. I never said 2.5-3k everytime. I very clearly indicated 2.4-3k under berserk, which is easily accomplished when you need that heal burst.

[Rios-Drakoon]

The issue with that particular fight is enmity generation on multiple targets at once. Since soldiers and knights are immune to phys/magic respectively, you have a really tight DPS window. Flash is simply not enough to hold them, and you have to do this multiple times ( in one instance tanking 3-5 mobs ).



English would help me understand you better. I never said 2.5-3k everytime. I very clearly indicated 2.4-3k under berserk, which is easily accomplished when you need that heal burst.

First, 2,4-3k IB Selfheal are CRITS, no normal. and who cares about crit? Crit is nice, crit is cool, but can i Count on them? NO,

You right, Flash is not enough, but hey, dont you have Circle of Scorn, use it, will help.

And still, i dont like you, cuz u never reply on my post.. tztztztz

[Ninjiitstu]

First, 2,4-3k IB Selfheal are CRITS, no normal. and who cares about crit? Crit is nice, crit is cool, but can i Count on them? NO,

You right, Flash is not enough, but hey, dont you have Circle of Scorn, use it, will help.

And still, i dont like you, cuz u never reply on my post.. tztztztz

I chose to ignore the post as I haven't once argued that. Healers have to work 10% harder - Self heals. In the best of conditions, that might be 2.5%. 7.5% harder is irrelevant.

[Rios-Drakoon]

Today i was GarudaHM, Paladin say he take Boss and Red Add, try that with Warrior and have fun.

And again, what selfheal? IB is "ok", but Bloodbath and Stormspath? are just a bad joke. do you really think the Healer feel any diffrence? not really.

[Ninjiitstu]

Today i was GarudaHM, Paladin say he take Boss and Red Add, try that with Warrior and have fun.

And again, what selfheal? IB is "ok", but Bloodbath and Stormspath?

Insert random comment about encounter that has nothing to do with the conversation.

Lets say over the course of a 5 minute encounter you require 200k healing. In that time, you can cast IB 5 times with no down time on Wrath 5. If 1k is average heal, that is 5k health regained. That accounts for 2.5% of the total heal done.

Not exceptional numbers by any means, but it does lower the difference between PLD and WAR that you are so fond of trying to push down people's throats. That is without any other factor, crits, berserk, storms path, bloodbath, etc.

So all of the sudden, that 10% harder healers have to work by your own math, starts to get smaller, and smaller.

If you have something relevant to post in regards to PLD vs WAR I would be happy to teach you that as well.

[Leiron]

You can't say, that 10% difference is smaller when Warriors use cooldowns, because then, you're completely ignoring the cooldowns Paladin's possess, which are superior.

[Ninjiitstu]

You can't say, that 10% difference is smaller when Warriors use cooldowns, because then, you're completely ignoring the cooldowns Paladin's possess, which are superior.

I am not ignoring anything. I have long since stated that the main reason PLD is better is because of Sentinel and Invuln.

[Giantbane]

Insert random comment about encounter that has nothing to do with the conversation.

Lets say over the course of a 5 minute encounter you require 200k healing. In that time, you can cast IB 5 times with no down time on Wrath 5. If 1k is average heal, that is 5k health regained. That accounts for 2.5% of the total heal done.

Not exceptional numbers by any means, but it does lower the difference between PLD and WAR that you are so fond of trying to push down people's throats. That is without any other factor, crits, berserk, storms path, bloodbath, etc.

So all of the sudden, that 10% harder healers have to work by your own math, starts to get smaller, and smaller.

If you have something relevant to post in regards to PLD vs WAR I would be happy to teach you that as well.

Well, it's also ignoring Rage of Halone and Shield Block. As long as you're counting always active benefits the PLD has over the WAR...