SE Banning players with large amounts of gil?

[indira]

SE is banning cheaters. now there playing victim like usual.

[indira]

I personally know people who have been banned and know they did not cheat.

So who do you, with your statement so broad know who has been banned?

Are you with the people 24/7?

[Tupsi]

I personally know people who have been banned and know they did not cheat.

So who do you, with your statement so broad know who has been banned?

SE themselves said they won't randomly suspend anyone (let alone ban) unless something shady has been going on. I even posted a link to the rep statement.

[Warlyx]

Are you with the people 24/7?

but .......my friend/brother/mother/dog told me .... !!!!!

friends and family LIE the most about buying gil , using hacks ect

[Anderian]

There's obviously no point in continuing to defend myself

Sorry to kick you while you are down, but there was NEVER any point for you to defend yourself. I've said this at least a couple of times by now, but S-E does not discuss it's ban/suspension policy on an open forum, nor do they read your pleads of innocence. All of these bans are a private matter between the player and S-E, and I still have no idea why so many of you seem so keen on washing your dirty laundry in the public. If you are innocent, act like it: wait for them to come to a conclusion, don't rant on forums how you are innocent.

[Hanemakikaze]

I personally know people who have been banned and assume they did not cheat.

So who do you, with your statement so broad know who has been banned?

Fixed that for ya.

[scarebearz]

If you are innocent, act like it: wait for them to come to a conclusion, don't rant on forums how you are innocent.

If this "blanket ban" were wider scale and included more legit players, I'm confidant the forums would be blazing by now.

This is the only slight chance we have of notifying SE staff about the issue because:

Email Support: Say to phone them/use live chat.
Phone: Automated response saying they are not taking calls due to volume.
Live Chat: Say they don't have the power to look into accounts, only staff in Japan do apparently.

How can you all seriously believe "Legit players won't complain if they are wrongfully suspended"?

[Reiia]

Phone CS: They have no power too, they don't know why you are suspended, they have no power to do anything but tell you "You did something wrong, we don't know, but you are 100% guilty because our computer system says you violated TOS for some reason that we don't know why. But our systems are 100% impossible to make a mistake so you MUST be guilty." And you a suspended 72 hours square enix time - which is 7 days to us laymen.
My god if the US court system was like that, Then everyone in the US will false report someone they hate to get them jailed and or killed. Salem Witch hunts, let it begin!

[Anderian]

Legit players won't complain if they are wrongfully suspended"?

I said no such thing. I said that complaining about it here won't help, and can get you in more trouble.

I've also said this many times; S-E's customer service is horrible, I played FFXI for years since the NA launch, so I know. But that doesn't change the fact that you are more than likely making things only worse for yourself by publicly discussing the fact that you were suspended (unfairly or not). I can guarantee you that no matter how much you complain on these forums, it won't get you your account reactivated any faster, or help your case any way.

And lastly, this isn't a "blanket ban". It was mentioned earlier, but S-E has stated that all of the near six hundred accounts they have suspended are suspected of illicit activity. I can guarantee you that there are thousands, if not tens of thousands, of players with tens of millions of gil that have not been caught in this ban.

If that's how innocent people should act, why do defense attorneys often speak at length about people they represent to the press? My understanding is that occasionally, defense attorneys represent people who are *actually innocent*. I didn't realize there was an 'appropriate way' to act innocent - I *am* innocent.

To your other point, policy doesn't change if nobody challenges it. I doubt it'll change from this, but it's a better chance than if I just accepted my wrongful suspension like I'm not a customer and long-time fan. Feel free to keep telling me I shouldn't bother though if you disagree, I appreciate the thread bumps. I'm not sure what your goal is - glee at our frustration? A clever subversive game where you actually agree but want to help us maintain thread visibility? An inability to let an argument go when there's nothing in it for you?

You seem to be confused. Do you believe this is court? No? Maybe you think this is S-E's customer service hotline? You are, quite literally, talking to a wall here. All the people who are listening are players such as yourself, who have no control over this matter. And the few moderators and forum reps over here aren't going to go "wow, this Jacotto character sure seems innocent, better call the main office and have them lift the ban". So you can see why all this ranting and talk of innocence would seem quite silly, no? But hey, good luck with changing their policy (which has served them well for well over a decade, I might add) with a few forum posts. If you would stop arguing with me, you might realize that I'm actually trying to help. You wouldn't want to get permabanned for discussing your suspension, right?

[scarebearz]

So far nobody has come forward to say *they* had over 10mil on a non-legacy server when the bans hit, so I'm doubting 10's of thousands had that amount of gil before the bans.

You may be right, this may only make matters worse, but I don't believe I have been rude etc.

Like I said, this is the only place we have to bring the matter to peoples attention.