SE Banning players with large amounts of gil?

[thoughtless]

Just received a Notice of Service Account Termination due to violation of ToS rules, specifically RTM. I am not sure who runs their investigations but all they had to do was log into my character on Behemoth and view all of my lvl 40-45 white quest gear and less than 150k gil from quests and leves that if I were buying or selling gil, I sure have nothing to show for it. Going to call the service desk in the morning after work (I work the graveyard shift as a police officer) and hopefully I can get this all ironed out. SE has a good game but their enforcement and task force needs a complete overhaul. I am sure I am not the only casualty to have had this happen to. Unfortunate that a casual gamer, like myself, who has only a few hours out of the work week to play due to the daily grind of a 60 plus hr/week career be accused of cheating and have services terminated without any forewarning.

[Zultimus]

i wonder if i ever sell anything after this, maybe not anymore , just enough for repair fees :/

[Faeon]

Maybe it is also because people are selling dungeons runs e.g. 60k/100k gives you a titan win.

I still think they should do investigation into those people and Gil sellers and not just ban people outright, but that might be a big task and allot of man power.

[UnrealTai]

I am positive you are making that up

Why would he be making it up ? I can make 100k in an hour fishing @ 50fsh..... And thats with me being too lazy to look at what the best prices/places are to do it at.

[Aphraell]

Wow.. just wow....

I created a new service on my same account with plans for global domination with my main account being able to mail to directly to my alt account instead of this 3rd party trade crap to alts. Levelled the character to 16 logged out, and now this account has been suspended.

What the hell is going on. This is utter bullshit. I was angry before, now I'm furious.

[Reiia]

Wow.. just wow....

I created a new service on my same account with plans for global domination with my main account being able to mail to directly to my alt account instead of this 3rd party trade crap to alts. Levelled the character to 16 logged out, and now this account has been suspended.

What the hell is going on. This is utter bullshit. I was angry before, now I'm furious.

technically playing on a 2nd account while your main is under investigation is theorically against the TOS? That would be seen as circumventing i guess?

[Rizon]

All these posts begs the question........Why have we not heard anything from SE concerning this situation? An official explanation is needed, the sooner the better.

[Katarina]

There is a recent reddit post about SE sweeping through and banning anyone with large amounts gil. Bans/Emails started this morning and apparently are still being sent out. No one knows what the magic number is but it appears to be claiming a lot of high end crafters for doing nothing more than buying and selling items. What is going on??

I don't want to break the forum rules but I am going to share my opinion.

1. Square Enix is banning accounts of players who have (X) amount of gil, or do large transactions of gil or make trades getting GIL obtained illegally, however this appears to be targeting innocent players who are just trying to play the game and this is unacceptable.

. As a result and original player of Final Fantasy XI, and Final Fantasy XIV, (Not AAR) Collectors owner, I have drop my subscription to this game, I will not be renewing it until the following are met.

2. The bans need to stop, if a player is caught illegally buying GIL, ban them get rid of you're automated Banning system which is not really a task force reviewing transactions.

A. Remove all transactions from the game ban all Transfers of GIL via trade.
B. Ban mailing of GIL, make GIL only usable in the market.

C. Even if you do the above then players would just put a item up for 1 million gil and tell (X) Person to buy it unless of course you fix it so no one knows who is buying it which is a good idea but players would quit playing for sure.

D. You're Website SUCKS, I go to Final Fantasy XIV site.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/

I am given this stupid Lode Stone thing can't navigate you're site without logging in ITS A PAIN, also you're (AMS) Account Management System totally sucks you need to update this before I even think about Renewing my subscription.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cf...397243#5977034

And just because of the Natural Disaster in Japan using that as an excuse for shutting down the original Final Fantasy XIV was pathetic, There should always be back-ups.

But Square Enix this time will not be as lucky again when this game goes down the drain because they can't even launch it properly and they are giving themselves bad public exposure just go to google look up "Final Fantasy XIV banned Gil" in search

Just my 2 Cents I hope this helps.


PLEASE FIX YOu're Forums Can't use more than 1000 letters Its annoying ( Well unless you edit after posting.)

I will not renew my subscription until SE improves customer service the game and these forums.

I support Real Money Trading. ( Square Enix does not) What they do is their business as stated in EULA/TOS.

I do not support spamming in game, botting, cheating, afk macroing, hacking which is what some companies do to obtain gil and the farmers need to be shut down by gil farmer I mean the cheaters, I Gold Farm everytime I play a game.

When it comes down to it no game company can actually ban every Gold Sller, or Buyer and it is 100% LEGAL if done right no one ever gets banned which is why you have to know who to get you're goods from not asking players to buy GIL here because its illegal per SE TOS, I am just saying You do you're thing I do mine Don't annoy me in game don't spam I don't care what you do with you're RL money.

Square Enix needs to fix their mistake and mighty fast using automated ban scripts is not fixing it.

I am not saying not to ban illegal farmers if you can prove that 100% Everyone you banned purchased gil and provide the evidence public then I am happy, but otherwise I am not, and I am seeing too many complaints about bans to know Something is going on, and of course per TOS SE doesn't have to do crap, but I am showing Square Enix with my wallet.

To truly understand RMT is to support it like EVE Online, Diablo 3, and so many other games have started to accept, let the economy play itself out even Guild Wars 2, Get rid of the cheaters, bots hackers, put in a legit trading post possibly or allow players to do their own thing, while figure out a way to decrease in game GIL which requires GIL spending more and more.

Its like the U.S Economy with trillion dollar debit all the social security payouts, government spending, loans, bailouts you think we are going to get out of debt, nope not easily it would be hard on millions and with our current banking system its a laugh, oh and lets not forget you could always hit the reset button devalue the U.S dollar so everyone's hard worked money means nothing it happened with confederate money once already before it was the U.S Dollar, similar to online gaming.

I have played many Alpha, Beta Tests, Done Scripting, and enough to know how GM's do their jobs in games, seen many games go down hill too because of dumb decisions and mistakes so yeah ^^ While a lot of people hate Bots, Cheaters, Hacks, Spammers I hate it too but it will be in RPG's unless you find a way to eliminate this and they all come at a cost and I say what Square Enix is doing is similar to Age OF Wushu, I spent $90 in Age OF Wushu and quit fast because of mistakes they made refused to listen to me just like when I said SWTOR was going to be a failure, told Gamers First APB was going to loose almost its entire player base compared to when they relaunched, and Said TERA was going to FAIL, and others too no one listen to customer until they take a hit.

Having over 1 million accounts subscribed do you think Square Enix has over 1 million players to view every transaction they do not a system flags players or automatic bans them and Square Enix is being dumb about it no proof of a Real Money Transaction unless SE was doing it themselves you have no proof that (X) Player went to PayPal and paid for GIL just a person trading an Item for Gil if I want to sell my potion for a million gil I can do such its legit transaction can't ban that.

Oh and btw Square Enix might want to fix this Asap, because I am a god of the search engine and I will have some fun making sure this gets around to every forum and site on the internet about the bans, I believe some of the people who have been complaining about false bans They can't all be lies ^^ Haven't ever seen complaints within the last 30 days of people getting banned on any other game for buying gold or currency because if they get banned they know they did it.

[ilJumperMT]

. As a result and original player of Final Fantasy XI, and Final Fantasy XIV, (Not AAR) Collectors owner, I have drop my subscription to this game, I will not be renewing it until the following are met.

2. The bans need to stop, if a player is caught illegally buying GIL, ban them get rid of you're automated Banning system which is not really a task force reviewing transactions.

So you not renewing sub because SE is banning gil buyers? lol. You should rejoice gil buyers are getting banned. The price of gil is getting higher everyday so they are doing something.

[BooBaby]

All these posts begs the question........Why have we not heard anything from SE concerning this situation? An official explanation is needed, the sooner the better.

I'd like to hope that we didn't hear anything because their employees don't work on the weekend, however it's coming up on midnight Monday in Japan and we haven't heard anything...soooooooooooooooooooooo.

Btw, tomorrow at JP midnight (10am EST) is the magic time for the end of the 72 hour suspension for people that were banned on Friday (they stated via phone support that it doesn't start until the next day at JP midnight). Let's see if Square-Enix pulls through and has their investigations done by then.