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  1. #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoolx View Post
    Click it and read it to the end, it's pretty interesting
    I have and it proves nothing, even if that 1 person did RMT, it does not mean the rest of us did.

    My point is still valid.

    From looking in the tech section, it seems you account was hacked by goldsellers, usually when people mention the have been hacked on a game forum, people automatically assume/say it's your fault for buying powerleveling/using RMT sites etc. I don't believe this is true for everyone with a hacked account and are willing to give people the benefit of the doubt.

    So why when we claim to have been suspended wrongly (also blaming goldsellers) can you not do the same for us?

    I'm sorry your account was hacked anyway.

    The people that really annoy me the are not the sellers, but the buyers, if there was no demand there would be no supply.
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    Last edited by scarebearz; 09-29-2013 at 02:49 PM.

  2. #272
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    Tzar Uck
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    The in game economy sucks. Plain and simple .. if SE didn't charge for Teleports or Gear repair.. I think you would see a more stable economy.
    The very fact after level 50 there are no more quest that offer new Gil being generated into the game... only means the inevitable will happen.
    Zero gil coming in after level 50 and on avg. 3000 gil a day dectucted by the Gil Sink in place which is teleports and repair cost.
    How will this survive ? The avg. cost the NPC pays out for farmed items is 5 gil now.. im not math expert but....
    say you FARM for 2 hours for whatever .. FISH, Market goods, Craft Supplies. The idea is to sell this crap to other players.. But that pool of money will eventually dry up and the Gil Sink will become more apparent. As players will start to HORDE money. SE needs to put that money which it makes off repair cost back into the REWARD system on FATES or Mob kills. Every little bit helps.
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  3. #273
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    Sefiria Satara
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    Quote Originally Posted by aray0002 View Post
    Zero gil coming in after level 50 and on avg. 3000 gil a day dectucted by the Gil Sink in place which is teleports and repair cost.
    I can make around 10~15k a day off my daily levequest allowance alone at level 50....

    Obviously that's speaking as a crafter, but it hardly nulls the point... I also don't pay anything close to 3k on repair costs... So, I'm generating plenty of Gil and then what? People who can't do the same (people who only leveled combat classes) start selling my items I need. The massive excess of Gil I'm generating is then passed on to them.

    I wont say there isn't a Gil sink in this game, because I cannot know for certain, but I'm damn sure going to doubt there is such a problem given the above...
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    Last edited by Sotek; 09-29-2013 at 04:00 PM.

  4. #274
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    Spirea Chan
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    I just noticed that the gold spam prices has more than doubled, looks like whatever SE did is working.
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  5. #275
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    Nenin Poponsand
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by aray0002 View Post
    The in game economy sucks. Plain and simple .. if SE didn't charge for Teleports or Gear repair..
    If teleporting and repairing were free, inflation would run wild. This game has quite a few mechanics for generating gil but only a handful of ways to 'remove' it.

    All leves and most quests generate new gil. Allagan pieces found in dungeon chests generate new gil. Every item dropped by a monster is new gil. All three disciples of land generate new gil. I'm probably missing a few but these are all ways that gil enters the economy.

    The only ways, at least that I know of, which remove gil from the economy are teleports/chocobo porters, repairs, and taxed market transactions.
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  6. #276
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    Vix_Spellweaver's Avatar
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    Vix Kujata
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Malarkey. Banning someone because they have a mountain of gil.
    There's more to it than that. I have made 2mil alone in just the last 48hours just trading back and forth in the AH. Just watch the market, you WILL get ideas on what can make you some money. See a high priced item that has low cost mats? Really...how hard is it to convert those raw goods into something useful. And there is nothing shady or dishonest about using a games built in market system. You would be shocked at the stupid low lvl things anyone can do to make gil in this game.

    Ex: LVL 20 harvesting items that sell for 200-300gil per swing of the hatchet. Seriously, how hard is it to close your eyes and press X.

    Move on up: The LVL 50 cooking recipes that are child's play gather mats for....yet go for 300k+ a stack.

    All this poopoo jealousy over players with high end Gil stash's.
    Guess what...I stuck it out when this game was 1.0 garbage, and EVERYONE across the internet clowned on me for playing the worst MMO ever.
    Ill be sure to wave at you from my Airship.
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    Last edited by Vix_Spellweaver; 09-29-2013 at 07:27 PM.

  7. #277
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    Nenin Poponsand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vix_Spellweaver View Post
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    All this poopoo jealousy over players with high end Gil stash's.
    Guess what...I stuck it out when this game was 1.0 garbage, and EVERYONE across the internet clowned on me for playing the worst MMO ever.
    Ill be sure to wave at you from my Airship.
    I think you deserve a medal. You must be some kind of genius to figure out how to turn a large chunk of money into a slightly larger one. I mean, it's not like you STARTED with that large chunk while all the new players started with no gil and no 50 classes.

    Oh wait...

    Well at least this is the appropriate thread to stroke your own ego in while laughing at the plebeian masses who started at the beginning, not the finish line.

    Oh wait...

    Well at least this thread is about rich players from legacy servers.

    ...
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  8. #278
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    Skadi Frostborn
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lafell View Post
    snip.
    I am on non legacy and I know 2 people with over 20mil each who are not banned.
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  9. #279
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    Elrond Peredhel
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    Seraph
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    They are targeting people who have traded with known RMT's.

    THey are targeting people who are exploiting game functions and other players.

    Even if some won't admit they were part of it.

    There was a comment about selling runs and exploiting players by a GM. So wouldn't recommend it. Those that do t are just regular playing subscribers. Such tactics have been used by RMT as well and they don't want it in the game.

    Lesson learned.
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  10. #280
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    Crim Soukyuu
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by 10TailBeast View Post
    What proof do you have of what you claim? Exactly.
    Who in their right minds would, on an official forum of all places, admit that they bought gil from RMT? Exactly.

    If they really were banning people only based on the amount of gil, they'd have to ban most of the legacy players. I knew enough people who were at the gil cap. That's 999 999 999 999 gil, mind you.
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