Annoying account lockouts?

[Altano]

Kilta, I know very well what keyloggers do. I have dealt with them personally in the past. Thank you. Again, I am not concerned about them on my computers.

I'm not in the business of giving SE an extra $10 when they're simply cashing in on the hackers' actions. Rather than "hey, we have this nifty little thing you can use to protect yourself and it's pretty cheap" they take the following approach "hey we have this little device that we want you to buy in addition to the game otherwise we will bug the hell out of you, rather than simply record all the IPs that you legitimately log into so you don't have to keep rerolling your password."

Edit: Just for the sake of pointing out specifically why I'm not concerned about keyloggers. My passwords are never the same for more than one place, and I'm just gonna throw it out there, there is a nifty little on-screen keyboard you can handle with the mouse. I can't be the only person to notice/use this.

[Captaindownsyndrome]

You do know I know more than a little bit about internet pc security. But thanks for pretending I don't. I said alphanumeric, fine, let me be more clear: yes, also symbols and caps and whatnot.

It's not a matter of getting in game faster, it's the hassle of having to generate new passwords each time, record those on paper somewhere so I don't have it stored on my computer. Frankly, I can take care of myself, thank you very much. I'm tired of being inconvenienced a lot, as you said, for the sake of security I don't need.

Again, you don't know me. You don't know how well I take care of myself and my private info. Believe me, I belong in the class of semi-paranoid. And that's a completely different story.

But this to me is SE cashing in on hackers activities by making it so that you have to pay them extra to keep your account going smoothly. Thanks, but no thanks. I understand it's not going to change, but I have the right to say it is utterly ridiculous that I cannot decline this feature and assume the risk myself without you walking in and assuming that I "want to be hacked."

i will start by saying that the token should be given with every box set hell it is cheaply made but trust me it maybe wrong for them to cash in on it as you say, but the token is needed, to stop the large scale and random hacking of accounts. Security should not be lowered. you may not like it but think of it this way you havent been paying for the game and token $9.99 just suck it up and buy one maybe you shouldn't be making a big deal so much about system in place as much as se should make it were anyone who buys the game gets take the full avenge of the security in place by being given a token in the 1st place this would be a much better argument.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

@ AL
You sound like one of those crazy off the grid anarchist. SE isn't cashing in on the hackers. They do not want to be lieable for ID left. Which is why thet put in the extra security. Idk if ppl knew this or forgot. But SE offices were hacked a few years ago taking severly hundrend accounts. Which is why they had those token made for ffxi and now ffxiv. Key loggers record everything you type no matter how you do it, it can record from any site. Honestly dude your cocky attitude is sorta what happen with. Sony got cocky about the security and now psn is shut down with no real sign of turning back on. They delayed it 3 times so far. Well they delayed in telling us a timeline of when it may be back on. Most of the time hackers go after credit card info. Which will be on you.

[Captaindownsyndrome]

Edit: Just for the sake of pointing out specifically why I'm not concerned about keyloggers. My passwords are never the same for more than one place, and I'm just gonna throw it out there, there is a nifty little on-screen keyboard you can handle with the mouse. I can't be the only person to notice/use this.

lol no i use it even with the token hell i have a virtual keyboard i use type in all my passwords and info on the web.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

i will start by saying that the token should be given with every box set hell it is cheaply made but trust me it maybe wrong for them to cash in on it as you say, but the token is needed, to stop the large scale and random hacking of accounts. Security should not be lowered. you may not like it but think of it this way you havent been paying for the game and token $9.99 just suck it up and buy one maybe you shouldn't be making a big deal so much about system in place as much as se should make it were anyone who buys the game gets take the full avenge of the security in place by being given a token in the 1st place this would be a much better argument.

there is an issue with that, and ppl stealing the tokens. Which is Why most mmo sell them on the side or in a limited box set.

[Altano]

You sound like one of those crazy off the grid anarchist.

This made me laugh so hard. You are insanely off the mark, but thanks for playing.

Key loggers record everything you type no matter how you do it, it can record from any site.

I input passwords with on-screen keyboard, as stated above. While a keylogger may pick up mouse clicks, it would have to know what those clicks are to be useful.

Maybe I am cocky. But I have been playing MMOs and dealing with online accounts and information for over a decade without a single hiccup. You can call me lucky, I call myself careful with a track record to prove it.

[Captaindownsyndrome]

there is an issue with that, and ppl stealing the tokens.

k who are these people stealing the tokens im not sure how to even start you know what im not im walking away cant think of anything to put that wont make me come off an ass.

Key loggers record everything you type no matter how you do it, it can record from any site.

hate to tell you that your statement is false sorry but you have been misinformed

[Kilta_Firelotus]

k who are these people stealing the tokens im not sure how to even start you know what im not im walking away cant think of anything to put that wont make me come off an ass.



hate to tell you that your statement is false sorry but you have been misinformed

ppl who would what to take apart the tokens and see how they would work, maybe figure out a work around. That is why they say toss it and order a new one when batter is low. (only a guess)

Honestly you guys read into what I say too much assuming the worst of me. If i'm wrong I'm wrong no need to be a jerk about it.

[Captaindownsyndrome]

ppl who would what to take apart the tokens and see how they would work, maybe figure out a work around. That is why they say toss it and order a new one when batter is low. (only a guess)

Honestly you guys read into what I say too much assuming the worst of me. If i'm wrong I'm wrong no need to be a jerk about it.

how was saying that mean i was just saying someone told you wrong and token cant be worked around they all have different info related to each one. may i be so bold say may be you should go search out this info, for your self that way you have a better understanding of what were speaking of here. being misinformed isnt really all that bad but not taking the steps to cure this informatory is.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

how was saying that mean i was just saying someone told you wrong and token cant be worked around they all have different info related to each one. may i be so bold say may be you should go search out this info, for your self that way you have a better understanding of what were speaking of here. being misinformed isnt really all that bad but not taking the steps to cure this informatory is.

ever consisder I did? The last part was frustration from another topic Like I said correct my mistakes and be done with it. No need to go above and beyond that and be a dumas jerk (not saying anyone here is)