Dungeon Leechers are becoming a growing problem

[Makeda]

I'd just say - put in an AFK timer on dungeons with a penalty to it: if you trigger the AFK timer on yourself while in a dungeon, you are lock from dungeons for 2 days. Then make that timer 10 minutes rather than the normal 30. If someone has to leave, they should leave, not AFK. If you've an emergency and can't even get to the logout button: you have bigger concerns than a 2 day timeout.

Also, people who reque after a group breakup with no bosses down, who are NOT the first ones to leave, should get bumped up in the DF queue.

But my ideal solution would be to let groups that queue into a dungeon stay together and reque together, even if some of them leave - I think that should be in there even if none of the other solutions are, and regardless of whether or not the game gets a votekick system. Couple it with the ability to make cross-world friends and group with them for DF purposes... and you'll start seeing these PUGs turn into mini-communities.

Too bad the community here is so against being able to kick someone from dungeons eh? Enjoy your leechers I suppose (or enjoy leeching, if you're really that against it).

Votekick is too abusable. Better to try other methods for accountability first - like cross server shareable blacklists and the ability to set a flag to not be queued with anyone who has been blacklisted a certain amount more than oneself has been.

I would set it as 'DF only random-groups people who have been blacklisted a similar amount - a range of 10.' and only people who have blacklisted others a similar amount - but a range of 50 on that. And how many times someone has been blacklisted, or how many people (but not who) they have blacklisted should both be visible on lodestone. As well, blacklisting should require typing a reason, 50-150 characters - and the reasons people have blacklisted you also visible on lodestone (with a 1-month ban against anyone who types a name into that reason).

My suggestion is pretty complex... but I've very rarely seen votekick used legitimately in any MMO...

I've also very rarely seen AFKers though. Perhaps the simplest solution would just be to remove from the group and dungeon anyone AFK more than 5 minutes (granted I have seen people who tried to speed run and force constant pulls in a group to prevent this trigger, and to prevent WoW's must wait 30 seconds after combat to votekick trigger...).