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  1. #11
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    Animation's Avatar
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    White Mage
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KiraKamu View Post
    Oh yeah and Whm gets a unicorn, right? Lol im juss sayin. Im a Sch and im thinking of lvling up my whm in the future too.
    Actually Conjurer gets the unicorn, not White Mage.
    You unlock the quest at level 30 Conj. (assuming all Conj quests are done).
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    Last edited by Animation; 09-23-2013 at 10:30 PM.

  2. #12
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    Lusian Royalt
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    There's a misconception runnin among the ranks atm about scholars, its not supposed to be a pure healer
    Are you saying it isn't a main healer? Or are you saying that the misconception out there is that people don't believe it is a main healer? If you are saying that there is a misconception out there then ya SE needs to step in and clear things up for the crazies that are all about whm supremacy. If you are saying it isn't a main healer, then I will need you to post the link of SE saying this please cause I can't find it.

    Anyway, there are zero downsides to playing a whm, the only issue that crops up is playing one poorly and ooming but since bards are dime a dozen even that is no issue.
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    Last edited by Alu79; 09-23-2013 at 10:37 PM.

  3. #13
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    Adellyna Adel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    A DPS teaching healers how to play their class .... lalala
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  4. #14
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    Wulfgang Amadeus
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    In a nutshell, it's the burst healing. SCH are efficient healers with some great damage reduction abilities, but there are a number of fights where they simply cannot heal fast enough to keep a tank alive. For instance, a SCH would not be able to heal a tank through a Turn 4 Dreadnought with the DTR stacks from the bugs when a Rotoswipe + AA does close to 5k damage to Relic +1 PLDs. SCH and WHM work best together; they have different strengths and frankly, I think the two classes have been designed well outside of Cure III being total fail.
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  5. #15
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    Brody Algana
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    SCH are kinda like Blood healers in The Secret World, another mmo out there. Its not really about havin the best healing output, its all about negating the most damage possible, and combined with a WHM its simply beast.

    There's a misconception runnin among the ranks atm about scholars, its not supposed to be a pure healer
    Thank you for saying that. I have been saying it and getting called a troll for it. Good to see someone else point it out.
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  6. #16
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    Brody Algana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alu79 View Post
    Are you saying it isn't a main healer? Tweek.
    No they are main healers. It is hard to explain and not be flamed though. So please know im not trying to troll here. Just as there are DPS that can output more DPS than other dps classes, the same is true for healers. White Mage has always been powerfully strong healers (See FF 11 when it first came out). By defination Square would likely try to make them the strongest healers in this game - just as there are DPS that can output more DPS. However, I still argue the best group is one with a scholar and a white mage - but yes, two white mage is better than 2 scholars (under normal situations).

    Actually from my understanding, and I haven't leveled my Arcanist high enough to see this yet, Scholars are better at very mobile fights.
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  7. #17
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    Astrid Merle
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    SCH are kinda like Blood healers in The Secret World, another mmo out there. Its not really about havin the best healing output, its all about negating the most damage possible, and combined with a WHM its simply beast.

    There's a misconception runnin among the ranks atm about scholars, its not supposed to be a pure healer
    The damage mitigation causes the heals that grant them to be about 50% weaker than a WHM equal. Outside of sacred soil's [sarcasm] wopping 10% damage reduction [end sarcasm], it's not an added perk as a SCH. At best, it was intended to be the same value in a different style. WHMs can get virus, and eye for an eye, so 2 less things unique to SCH.

    So... there's really only sacred soil as far as damage mitigation goes, since WHMs more than make up for not having adloquium, and succor in healing. None of the damage mitigation was designed to really be necessary either.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrodyAlgana View Post
    No they are main healers.
    Until you find the current development team's quote stating this, you should stop saying this.
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    Last edited by fanservice; 09-24-2013 at 02:33 AM.

  8. #18
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    wow I will just stop using adjectives then.

    "They are healers."

    Hopefully I don't need a development team member to back me up on that.
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  9. #19
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    Ahraliah Moon
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    Mateus
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Benediction. Usually ready by next boss fight. Fully restores the hp of one target. I get warriors tanks a lot, so I use it a lot.

    I also really like having to manage my mp and enmity. In XI you could pretty much spam cures. Especially after level cap increase. Just stick to cure 3 and 5, 4 rarely. Keep regen up cause tics didn't give enmity. Careful with curagas. I had very little enmity reduction gear, and rarely pulled hate.

    Yes, to me that is something WHM has over SCH. Managing my enmity and mp is a lot more fun to me than controlling the fairy or dealing with her AI.
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  10. #20
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    Cearka Larue
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    Sargatanas
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    SCH are kinda like Blood healers in The Secret World, another mmo out there. Its not really about havin the best healing output, its all about negating the most damage possible, and combined with a WHM its simply beast.

    There's a misconception runnin among the ranks atm about scholars, its not supposed to be a pure healer
    ...blood healers are still healers...just saying. although AR leech is the most OP in tsw.


    but yeah what other people said. myself, I fine granite skin (orwhatever that trait is called) and regen alone pretty much makes the WHM a very formidable healer, then you get all the other stuff.
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