OMG Give us an AOE heal that is not worthless!

[FinagleABagel]

...blast me all you want but your argument is nothing more than your complaints about a class that isn't gimped.

I'm assuming it's because you can't clear content. Otherwise, I'm not sure why you are spending time complaining about a class you aren't having a problem with.

[fanservice]

...blast me all you want but your argument is nothing more than your complaints about a class that isn't gimped.

Yeah I shouldn't demand better of product when there are flawed details. Ok.

I'm assuming it's because you can't clear content. Otherwise, I'm not sure why you are spending time complaining about a class you aren't having a problem with.

See above.

[FinagleABagel]

Yeah I shouldn't demand better of product when there are flawed details. Ok.



See above.

....no

When it's "good enough" - it's called BALANCE. You just seem to want some OP character. That's a shame.

[fanservice]

....no

When it's "good enough" - it's called BALANCE.

Good enough is a phrase used by the lazy to justify unfinished work

You just seem to want some OP character. That's a shame.

I doubt I should even give this a response.

[Lazarou742]

I can't say i wouldnt mind a buff on our shield heals. That being said i am capable of healing relatively well even if it isnt as much as a whm. It takes more skill and more micromanagement to heal as well as a whm on a scholar.

[gigi_frana]

Hm obviously SCH is not for everyone.
Which is good. I hope all the frustrated ones roll a WHM.

[Daraqueth]

A good discussion here - lets keep it at that, i do tend to see that there is disagreement among Scholars whether its needed or not - I would like to try and give a perspective from a WHM (flame away!)

I group regularly with a Scholar, I am up to Titan HM (havent quite managed to get him yet) - and so am not in Coil yet.

I think the partnership with a Scholar is super aligned - I would MUCH rather team up with a Scholar than a WHM, and I think thats how it should be - when the 2 classes work together they work brilliantly.

If the DPS/raid is taking a lot of hits, I usually pop a regen on the maintank and focus on everyone else - Scholar keeps MT going while i go around the raid with heals - typically single targets - if things get too tough, I pop a medica - and if scholar has time, he usually pops a Succor.

But where it really counts are the big AoE's - again I think the 2 jobs complement eachother - pre-AoE when people assemble scholar pops the bubble and the succor - right after the AoE I pop Medica II and Medica I (if needed) - while scholar shields up and preps MT for the hits coming in.

Now to a point that I do agree in.
2x WHMs would probably have an easier time than 2x SCH on many of these fights - but I don't think thats a just indication of power - the WHMs spells allows for better fixing of emergencies, while the SCH spells ensures emergencies are kept to a minimum.

I think they should be seen in the light of working together or standign alone (AKA 4man).

Also I would like to remind you that Medica is potency 300 (if your heal is 150 and shield 150 - isn't that the same?) - now while I know Medica 2 on the other hand is more powerful, thats where I believe the Fairy makes up for it for Scholars.

Just some input.

[Akava]

Scholar's don't need buffs or mechanical changes. Succor is fine the way it is because our faeries compliment our healing power very well, in theory. Which leads me to the only change that Scholar's require, better management of our faeries. Once Scholar's are able to tell their Faerie to use Whisper and tell her when to case Embrace while the Scholar is casting, that'll allow the Scholar to see their real healing power. The way it is right now, the Scholar feels weak because a large portion of their healing power is basically uncontrollable.

That's all that's needed really.

[fanservice]

Also I would like to remind you that Medica is potency 300 (if your heal is 150 and shield 150 - isn't that the same?)

In theory yes, but in practice, casting consecutive succors while people are still shielded is a huge waste of mp due to shield mechanics, and no alternative like what physick is to adloquium, so it's more efficient to single target heal after 1-2 succors since half of the spells value goes down the drain if someone is already shielded.

That's when it becomes half of a medica for the same MP cost, and time to cast, costing twice the MP, and time to accomplish the same healing since shields don't stack.

Yes the OP is crazy for asking for 600 potency.

- now while I know Medica 2 on the other hand is more powerful, thats where I believe the Fairy makes up for it for Scholars.

Well the fairy still doesn't make up for the strength of medica 2, but I'm not saying it should. I do belive WHMs should keep their medica ii, and cure iii unique.

[Valiant]

snip.

Where are you getting your numbers from? Faeries don't heal that high. I'm a 50 SCH and my faerie doesn't do 1.3k heals it does less than physick around 600hp without a crit. On top of which why use medica? Medica 2 is better. That 100 CP is per tick not over all therefore medica 2 (one use) is superior to succor. Don't forget regen also heals more than cure1/physick. Once again the CP is per tick. Where as the shield is ALWAYS what you heal for unless you crit and no SCH, I have seen well geared, crits often. Besides Cure 3 is an often forgotten spell and can heal for more than succor plus faerie easy.