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  1. #41
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    Astralis's Avatar
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    Astralis Luneglade
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    We all know end game gears can only be obtained by doing myths and coils. Coils reset every week and myth has a cap of 300 per week. Sure there are other contents in the game but even if you them all, you wont get rewarded by end game gears and most players who play mmo targets that end game gear.

    Sure major contents doesnt come fast in any games. But once you have experienced playing different mmos you can clearly see the difference on how soon they fix issues in their games and how devoted they are in eliminating bots and they actually listen to players.

    Here in se, you cant even see devs and staffs updating players and you never see them respond to their customers complaints. Based on that you can pretty much assume how less they care about us.

    Dont get me wrong i like this game and despite the major flaws i am still playing and subscribing for it. I just want se to have better service that's all
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  2. #42
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    Odsarzol Que
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    I think the one thing you're forgetting is ARR is pretty much the definition of listening to player's complaints - It's exactly like every other MMO on the market and it fixed pretty much every issue wrong with 1.0 in the eyes of many. It's still a newly launched MMO, all MMOs including WoW took awhile to get everything ironed out. Even Blizzard doesn't "fix" things until their next update - we've yet to have one major update to this game - A lot of "complaints" are basically demands rather than actual complaints. RMT situation is huge in any MMO - how do most companies fight it? Sanction their own RMT or basically make the economy worthless and the RMT slowly die out. Hacking and Botting? Happens in all MMOs - Latency issues? No matter what SE does some group of players will always seem to have issues for one reason or another.
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  3. #43
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    Sure arr is a new mmo and should be given time to fix things. But given the fact that they launched the game and charged players already to play, 1 month of not fixing 90000 just crosses the line. I mean thid issue has been in this game since beta. By now they shouldve fixed it but nope. No words or even explanation coming from them as to why they cant fix it.

    Then theres the very low cap of myth tomes. Seriously 500 i can understand but 300? You have to fucking wait 3weeks just to get a single i90 equipment? That alone sounds greedy in their part. I mean come on its so obvious why they do it is not because so that players wont get bored easily but so that players will be forced to wait and subscribe longer. It doesnt really help. Players are already getting bored of this game even with 300 cap.
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  4. #44
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    Wulfgang Amadeus
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaypee View Post
    Yeah they should totally like not cap and just hand over gear because most are too lazy to get. This isn't WoW, not all MMO's will hand you gear and give you what you want if you bitch enough. They made a cap for a reason as most pointed out. Earn the gear like everyone else and stop complaining cause I highly doubt they will change it. It's not hard to get Relic or full DL. But it doesn't mean just because you pay for this game it means you're entitled to get ilvl90 gear. You pay to play and keep the servers running and such, you aren't entitled to much else. Sorry to be blunt but the qqing is unbearable over something so dumb.
    What? In both capped and non-capped scenarios, it takes the same amount of effort to "earn" your gear. You have to do the same number of dungeon runs. All it does is prolong how long it takes to earn said gear. Your logic makes zero sense.
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  5. #45
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    Chad Thunderkoch
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I wouldn't call Allagan set superior because stats are the same as AF2 but bonus stats setup is made differently.

    AF2 is more job role focused. For example, Paladins and Warriors will want the AF2 set to tank better but Allagan stat bonus is more utility based.
    There's actually only a couple pieces for Paladin/Warrior that are better via AF2, but okay.
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  6. #46
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    Noata's Avatar
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    Kazari Uiharu
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfgang View Post
    The cap makes no intuitive sense other than prolonging content to allow for the developers to make more. I don't really care, they're not the first game to do it, but I honestly think most people would play more if there were no cap. People would spam AK for AF2, then spam Coil for overlapping but superior Allagan pieces. I think putting iLVL 90 gear on a token system was stupid to begin with regardless. 80 sure, but the 90 stuff should be achieved for being competent in Coil.
    Well simply put they opted for a "credit" based system over a loot one, loot would be hard to control 100% and with rare drops certian people could experience never getting everything. So letting everyone progress as long as they did x for y amount of time in a sense was an attempt to let everyone get something. besides end game items are never easy to obtain, if you think this is bad VM back when it first came out in TERA was way more insane.
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  7. #47
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    Laiyenu Rae
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    Quote Originally Posted by razzgrizz3 View Post
    this is basicaly them saying. here, pay us for play time. also you want to progress? you want progress at your own pace? you will play only as much as we say and you will progress at the pace we want ( which is one run of amdapor keep a day essentialy), oh yeah you will be PAYING us for this privilege.

    people are defending this...
    Pretty much. Just enjoy the stupidity of others.
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  8. #48
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    Jo Maru
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    What they should do is make everything free and 100% drop on easy mode, so we can stare at our awesome gear then log out 5 minutes after that gets boring from not having shit to do.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otoha View Post
    What they should do is make everything free and 100% drop on easy mode, so we can stare at our awesome gear then log out 5 minutes after that gets boring from not having shit to do.
    You mean like it is now after every Monday.
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  10. #50
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    Klefth Reinhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    Caps suck, and they're unnecessary. Just make the items hard to get.

    No one likes being told "this is precisely how much you can accomplish every week for this game you're paying monthly for".
    This right here. Why are items of such value all just buyable from an NPC to begin with? Even if the currency needed to buy them comes from content, it's still pretty lame that you have to just go and buy it, and all that's stopping you from obtaining it all is the most obvious of time sinks there is. I'd even take FFXI's abysmal drop rates over that. At least there you always felt that you just kept working towards your stuff until you could achieve it instead of "oh well, just 2 weeks more to go" to get anything because the game itself simply stops you.

    Quote Originally Posted by razzgrizz3 View Post
    this is basicaly them saying. here, pay us for play time. also you want to progress? you want progress at your own pace? you will play only as much as we say and you will progress at the pace we want ( which is one run of amdapor keep a day essentialy), oh yeah you will be PAYING us for this privilege.

    people are defending this...
    Also, this. And here I thought just quest-based progression alone made the game an on-rails experience. This just brings up the controlled gameplay experience to a whole new level.

    This is even worse than the fatigue system way back at 1.0 launch. Yeah, the one that everyone despised, yet they defend this. At least fatigue only started giving you diminishing returns - this time we're just forced into a full stop every week.
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    Last edited by Klefth; 09-22-2013 at 09:20 AM.

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