Are we really gearchecking speedruns for storymode dungeons now?

[silentwindfr]

@vmage: is your right to think like this, but for me i don't see the point to be the first at do something, then rush for get beat this place... no point, i prefer beat the challenge, not to be the first to beat it.
after is my opinion and i simply think people need to enjoy more the game. that all.

@reiterpallasch: i know fairly well how is long and how is boring to equip one jobs, i have already give my thought about this. personally i don't care to run a dungeon even 100 times if i have fun. i have done it while the beta and will do it there too. after be aggresive don't make your point valid. i found it sad that people have loose of sight that the point of a game is have fun... and because they need to do something a lot of time it's forced to be boring and not fun... then let's speedrun it.

[Reiterpallasch]

i found it sad that people have loose of sight that the point of a game is have fun... and because they need to do something a lot of time it's forced to be boring and not fun... then let's speedrun it.

Playing efficiently, playing well, and playing to the best of my ability is fun to me, as well as to a lot of people in this game. Why is that concept lost on so many people here?

What is it about making a grindy dungeon take even longer that is so fun to you? Why try to do the dungeons to begin with? Is it to get gear? Because that gear makes the dungeon faster, which should be making it less fun for you right?

Do you also tell your boss to pay you less so you have to work harder and longer for the same reward? Or do you want to make as much money as you can in as little time possible?

[Ron_Burgundy]

Playing efficiently, playing well, and playing to the best of my ability is fun to me, as well as to a lot of people in this game. Why is that concept lost on so many people here?

What is it about making a grindy dungeon take even longer that is so fun to you? Why try to do the dungeons to begin with? Is it to get gear? Because that gear makes the dungeon faster, which should be making it less fun for you right?

Do you also tell your boss to pay you less so you have to work harder and longer for the same reward? Or do you want to make as much money as you can in as little time possible?

Doesn't stop you guys from being a dead rat in the wall. Nobody wants to be around you.

[Altheras]

Do you also tell your boss to pay you less so you have to work harder and longer for the same reward? Or do you want to make as much money as you can in as little time possible?

Wow, a perfect quote for the "These people are making the game a job" argument. o_o

[Yshnal]

Do you also tell your boss to pay you less so you have to work harder and longer for the same reward? Or do you want to make as much money as you can in as little time possible?

I'm just quoting this as it illustrates the mentality of some people. This is a game, not a job. As such, we're here to have fun, not to make money (or obtain gear). Gear is a mean to an end, not the end itself. We get better gear while we have fun beating some content so that we can run (often artificially) "harder" content to have, again, fun beating it. Of course, getting some new shinnies can be exciting (just for the visual part of it, as stats are something artificial, specially here with level sync), but it's just a minor part.

Back to the main topic, I'm always amazed by the logic of some of these gearcheck people, even if they're free to do whatever they want, of course. Really, when someone starts asking that the minimum gear requirement is the same gear that you would get after running/farming said dungeon or even superior, ask yourselves this: why would a good player with said gear run a dungeon that will give him nothing of value instead of, I don't know, try Coil? And no, gear for other classes doesn't count, as he would be able to get it from Coil, anyway, while doing something that requires more skill than just being a mindless zombie.

[DanteMog]

Playing efficiently, playing well, and playing to the best of my ability is fun to me, as well as to a lot of people in this game. Why is that concept lost on so many people here?

For me the fun is completing the dungeon completely, the gear and extra are a bonus, once completed i move on, i do not care about efficiency or speed, i do not like repetition, i'll do a dungeon 5 times then i'm done finished no more, to rinse and repeat stuff as some challenge blah blah is frustrating and tedious to me.

Not everyone cares about how great they are or how good they can strive to be, for me its just enjoy the sights and move on.