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    There are a few changes SCH could stand to receive. Won't talk about pet ai, it's been covered. Everyone knows it is broken and fixes are needed, like a toggle feature for fairy skills. But here are some ideas to throw out there.

    Succor doesn't need a potency buff, but rather a mechanical change. Succor could remain at its current 150 potency heal/shield and work fine if they did something like the next Succor cast on a target that is shielded (from a succor spell) to consume the shield and add the shield value to the new succor's healing that is being cast. In other words say I cast succor and it heals for 200 and shields for 200, casting another succor on a target that has a succor shield up consumes the shield and adds that 200 point shield to the new succors healing to make it look like 200h/200s -> 400h/200s. That would give us the AoE heal we so desperately need while remain unique and different from a WHM.

    Eos should have her regen spell cd dropped to 30 seconds.

    Another change we could stand changes to Selene's buffs. Currently all they do is add 30% spell/skill speed based on your skill/spell speed stat TO your spell/skill speed stats. If you or the players being buffed haven't heavily invested in spell/skill speed stats, Selene is complete garbage. What I would rather see from her is a true 30% haste buff that has both skill and spell speeds rolled into one handy spell on say a 2 or 3 minute CD. The now empty slot she has could then be turned into a single target resource regeneration buff that is uncastable on the owner of the fairy and restores the resource the target is lowest on. Also, scrap her Embrace and instead make it an atk the does splash healing based on the dmg it deals to targets near whatever she atked. Obviously make it a weakish atk/heal. I have no idea what to make of her interrupt. Haven't had a need to use it and the CD on it is rather hefty so dunno what to make of it. But anyway, she is a utility fairy, lets make her utilitarian shall we?

    And last but not least, can these damn fairies be put on a completely separate GCD from us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alu79 View Post
    Succor doesn't need a potency buff, but rather a mechanical change. Succor could remain at its current 150 potency heal/shield and work fine if they did something like the next Succor cast on a target that is shielded (from a succor spell) to consume the shield and add the shield value to the new succor's healing that is being cast. In other words say I cast succor and it heals for 200 and shields for 200, casting another succor on a target that has a succor shield up consumes the shield and adds that 200 point shield to the new succors healing to make it look like 200h/200s -> 400h/200s. That would give us the AoE heal we so desperately need while remain unique and different from a WHM.
    I actually like that. No need to add a second spell, and succor remains unique, no matter what it won't be a waste to chain cast succor if need be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanservice View Post
    I actually like that. No need to add a second spell, and succor remains unique, no matter what it won't be a waste to chain cast succor if need be.
    So, does SE read these forums? Or should I post these ideas somewhere else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanservice View Post
    I actually like that. No need to add a second spell, and succor remains unique, no matter what it won't be a waste to chain cast succor if need be.
    But does that just become a more powerful version of medica 2?

    Either burst healing or shielding, with no mana issues, all heal upfront? Seems like it would make SCH greatly surpass whm in group burst heal- especially with free group regen in pet

    Without shields stacking, one SCH triggering both doing full burst heals would make SCH x 2 the best setup by far.

    It would also kill class synergy... whm can regen under shields... with this, SCH would shield, and then just overpower whm, and regens would just be overheal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    But does that just become a more powerful version of medica 2?

    Either burst healing or shielding, with no mana issues, all heal upfront? Seems like it would make SCH greatly surpass whm in group burst heal- especially with free group regen in pet

    Without shields stacking, one SCH triggering both doing full burst heals would make SCH x 2 the best setup by far.

    It would also kill class synergy... whm can regen under shields... with this, SCH would shield, and then just overpower whm, and regens would just be overheal.
    How would it be a stronger version of medica 2? If Medica 2's regen is wasted then so is the shield, if medica 2's regen is used, so is the shields.. I am not seeing how or where it is stronger than Medica 2.

    Maybe you are misunderstanding the idea? S = shield and H = heal - Lets say first cast is say a 200h/200s, second cast is consuming the 200s from the first succor to add it to the second ones healing so that it looks like 400h/200s - this way the spell isn't wasted because make no mistake that this spell is COMPLETELY wasted by being spammed during aoe phases whether it is a single sch spamming it or two sch spamming it.

    If our mana is your issue then the fix to that is simply bumping mana cost up to match Medica 2's mana cost whenever Succor is used in this manner, not that succor is a cheap spell to cast at 400 mana. Problem solved, ya? I mean I don't see the posts of SCH complaining that a whm is OP with a bard in the group.. this is getting silly.

    PS: Why are you ok with half a spells effectiveness being COMPLETELY wasted, and, again, make no mistake - it is completely wasted during aoe phases where it is spammed, but not ok with us having some method of getting full use out of it?
    PPS: Why aren't you asking for a tweak to Shroud of saints passive? Instead of just a bump to 80 refresh it could also knock 30 sec off of the cd.
    PSPS: The no mana issue thing is silly, you think SCH never oom? We do, we just never do for very long. Our mana recovery is strong, but botch your mana usage while it is on CD and see if it is an issue or not trying to aoe heal for 150 potency at 400 mana a pop.. it sucks, but you already know all about similar things being a whm.
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    Last edited by Alu79; 09-22-2013 at 11:57 AM.