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    Kaedan94's Avatar
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    This is why I stick to Japanese servers. At least the players are polite and if they don't have anything good to say, they just don't say anything at all. If you want, Masamune is the unofficial Oceanic server for legacy (Tonberry for new) and has plenty of English speakers. And you can get by pretty well with auto-translate with the Japanese players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    This is why I stick to Japanese servers. At least the players are polite and if they don't have anything good to say, they just don't say anything at all. If you want, Masamune is the unofficial Oceanic server for legacy (Tonberry for new) and has plenty of English speakers. And you can get by pretty well with auto-translate with the Japanese players.
    I also went to Japanese servers because of the trash community in NA servers. I rather play with polite Japanese players then rude NA players who waste my time trash talking to each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    This is why I stick to Japanese servers. At least the players are polite and if they don't have anything good to say, they just don't say anything at all. If you want, Masamune is the unofficial Oceanic server for legacy (Tonberry for new) and has plenty of English speakers. And you can get by pretty well with auto-translate with the Japanese players.
    While it's true JP server are a peaceful dream, silent shout chat, and respectful players, sadly on queue i'm sad to admit the douchebag E attitude is spreading like a virus, a cancer. Maybe most on this thread don't understand 1 single word, when they type. I do, and i can tell they laugh about who do 1 single thing wrong, and if the player try to type anything is bashed. Worst is when one of them using "engrish" answer in english. Then (if you didn't understood 1 word so far) you realize what they are telling to you "You're useless here, leave, we don't need you".
    If speechless and a bit confused, copypaste the jp chat, and you will see translated they all was bashing, laughing about you, trying to find one of them able to speak english and invite this player to leave and don't come back.

    Disillude yourself about the JP community. While , true, most are polite and educate, costant and able to deal with 1 wipe, on a second wipe you can even "feel" their disappointment. Silent maybe, until you trigger the button, then bash begins.

    It's rare luckly, that's why my queue are exclusively on J.
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    Last edited by Teon; 09-19-2013 at 07:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teon View Post
    Disillude yourself about the JP community. While , true, most are polite and educate, costant and able to deal with 1 wipe, on a second wipe you can even "feel" their disappointment. Silent maybe, until you trigger the button, then bash begins.

    It's rare luckly, that's why my queue are exclusively on J.
    i understand a bit of their conversation
    they do insult, but they do it in a silly way lol
    in a duty, i know they were disappointed to one of the silent tank (non JP apparently)
    however, the way the express it is not in uneducated way, like adding emotes and such in their chat
    even when we wiped, they won't rage like idiots and blame each other
    the one who's responsible for the wipe will apologize with a big emoticon, it's fun to be with them

    there's 1 fact that i can assure you from my experience, i never met a JP who rage quit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teon View Post
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    Sorry you had a bad experience, but I haven't experienced any of that at all. I'm fluent in Japanese and never had I had someone belittle, insult, or bad mouth anyone in the party. The worst I've seen is a disappointed comment about so-and-so not doing what he needs to or an "I don't think we can do this". Though one time someone did get angry during Garuda at one of the healers. But their only comment was to "control your threat!"

    I'm not saying there's not jerks on Japanese servers, but they are tremendously more rare than NA. In the vast majority of cases, people are much more polite and will simply not say anything at all if they don't have something nice to say. I'm glad that you see that it is rare and I also always have the DF set to JE (though I usually end up with Japanese parties).


    Quote Originally Posted by IngkeuMihili View Post
    If you don't like running dungeons in the Duty Finder because the people you wind up with are rude and disrespectful, don't use Duty Finder.

    TL;DR: If you don't like it and/or find yourself offended by it/them, don't put yourself through it.
    These are absolutely ridiculous comments. And it's the reason that society has gone to hell in recent years. You're essentially endorsing rude behavior. You're giving them a pass. Rude behavior should be punished, not dismissed as the victim's fault.

    This is why we need a vote kick for DF added ASAP. So the rude players will think twice about being ***hats because they'll actually have consequences to face.
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    Last edited by Kaedan94; 09-19-2013 at 12:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    These are absolutely ridiculous comments. And it's the reason that society has gone to hell in recent years. You're essentially endorsing rude behavior. You're giving them a pass. Rude behavior should be punished, not dismissed as the victim's fault.
    Why doesn't everyone see it this way? The solution to getting around assholes shouldn't be to avoid the content altogether, or to go out of my way to form a group myself. That's absurd.

    My point was that people shouldn't be acting the way they are, period. I wasn't looking for work-arounds. I'm well aware that I could stand in RT and shout up a group on my server, but can't you understand that it's sickeningly pathetic that I HAVE to go to those lengths just to be able to enjoy my time in-game?

    I'm not looking for ways to avoid the trash. I'm pointing out that it's pathetic that this is the community we're going to have to play with.
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    Redundant. Pointless. No one is going to bother listening any way.

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    I am coming in late here, but I finally got to 50 and ran CM for the first time.

    It was the single worst experience I have had with this game yet. In every single other Duty Finder event I have done, you need only say "hey I am new, what do I need to know?" and everyone is cool about it and helps you out as needed.

    But enter CM, and expect very simple things like an explanation of mechanics or to simply watch the cutscenes, and I am yelled at, called a noob, left behind, etc. If there were a vote kick mechanic, it would be severely abused by these people.

    I think I read that SE is planning to fix this dungeon, and I hope they are planning to do it soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synra View Post
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    One problem I see with vote kick in this situation though, say if I or you were the first timer and everyone else (should say most) are speed runners and don't like helping new people, when they see that vote kick option, they might turn around and use it on us for being the first timer.

    Just to be clear, I haven't cleared CM after my first run as stated in my previous post on this thread. I just worry this is what's going to happen next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    One problem I see with vote kick in this situation though, say if I or you were the first timer and everyone else (should say most) are speed runners and don't like helping new people, when they see that vote kick option, they might turn around and use it on us for being the first timer.

    Just to be clear, I haven't cleared CM after my first run as stated in my previous post on this thread. I just worry this is what's going to happen next.
    I think the FATE system and Duty Finder just haven't done their due purpose, and have instead encouraged the "dehumanization" of the MMO community. Having no real content that involves more than 8 players doesn't help the atmosphere is LSes and FCs either.
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