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    This is nowhere near my first MMO. I've played WoW, Guild Wars 1 and 2, Maplestory, and countless others I can't remember the names of. My point is that every MMO has followed this trend, but this game is the epitome of easy.

    The dungeons I've done are a joke, honestly. I've watched people doing the higher up dungeons, just to see if they'd actually be any fun, and they look just as easy. Sure a game could start out easy and get progressively harder, but the game is starting too easy and ending too easy. It's just boring.
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    F'whalon Yhisa
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    May I ask what mmo did you consider challenging just for frame of reference.
    Quote Originally Posted by Farore View Post
    This is nowhere near my first MMO. I've played WoW, Guild Wars 1 and 2, Maplestory, and countless others I can't remember the names of. My point is that every MMO has followed this trend, but this game is the epitome of easy.
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    Queue Tea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roaminggnome View Post
    May I ask what mom did you consider challenging just for frame of reference.
    Certainly not yours.

    Edit:Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
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    Lol tablets are just as bad as cell phones
    Quote Originally Posted by jpem View Post
    Certainly not yours.

    Edit:Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
    I do have to laugh though when those who think they played a hard core mmo and never played everquest try dying and losing a level or two then you won't think repairing your armor is so bad.
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    Dinin N'a'shezbaernon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roaminggnome View Post
    Lol tablets are just as bad as cell phones


    I do have to laugh though when those who think they played a hard core mmo and never played everquest try dying and losing a level or two then you won't think repairing your armor is so bad.
    I have to somewhat agree, no maps, corpse runs and random Level 35-50 mobs in zones for levels 15-25 to progress in. I will always remember Griffins and Sand Giants putting the fear in people and so many people giving OOC reports on locations and directions of those big mean mobs. Plane runs were raids of epic proportions and terribly time consuming just to even pull mobs away from the zone in so the raid could make it in. CT doing a death touch every what 30 seconds? Just getting to Nag that mean fire dragon was a pain too. going in waves and having clerics on Res duty this being all without VOIP software.

    Some of that difficulty I am glad to see it go, but point made, in the beginning it was tough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farore View Post
    This is nowhere near my first MMO. I've played WoW, Guild Wars 1 and 2, Maplestory, and countless others I can't remember the names of. My point is that every MMO has followed this trend, but this game is the epitome of easy.
    GW2 and Maplestory were beyond easy: the solution to becoming as wealthy as possible inside the game: open my real life wallet and convert into ingame wealth. It is a no brainer; took me less than 1 second to figure out. FFXIV is far more complex.
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    Enitzu Zen'yr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farore View Post
    -snip-
    You start off saying that all games are easy mode and that no content is challenging anymore. Well sir if you think that then why not jump back on wow and go clear out hard mode warchief. After that come back level to 50, grind your gear, and blow through the hard mode primals. Since you are so amazing and the games are so faceroll you should be able to do all of this quickly since you won't die and carry 7+ others with you the entire way right?


    You play the beginning of a game and expect it to be hard? Get real. No game you have played has been hard. WoW, GW, and (lol) Maple Story ... what part of any of them was actually hard minus the end game hard modes in WoW? And even then only some were difficult.

    You should stick to the console games that don't cater to the casuals. /endrant

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoko_Kurama View Post
    Dude you are barking up the wrong tree here with these people trust me. Many of these guys don't know what it's like to play an mmo where the very possibility to get to end game content involves weeks of struggle where you must plan out not only personal strategy on how you will build your characters class and abilities but also find like minded friends who can plan battle strategies with otherwise that level 15 or level 30 dungeon will be impossible to get through. These people who say that the game should truly activate at max level just make me chuckle, level 1 through 50 IS the game! People talk about what they call end game but in actuality what they are talking about is After the end of the game. In other words people here seem to be satisfied that the entire game leading up to the last 10 levels (when content begins to sort of challenge you) is somehow a good rpg practice...ridiculous. Don't worry i'm siding with you on this on OP.
    Prolly shouldn't speak for others when you have no idea what they have or haven't done. Personally been playing MMOs since UO and EQ1 and hardcore raided even back then being world 2nd to clear VT when it took weeks of farming for just 1 key and you needed to get 72 of them done. I know all about time sinks and difficulty. And if you think for a second that any game designer will ever put that into a game again you're sadly mistaken. They would lose their asses off if they did that. Hell even SOE the kings of bs and time sinks are making their new game to cater to the more casual crowd because that is where the money is.

    I do agree that the challenge shouldn't be as low as it is in the early levels and that players should gradually be pushed into harder and harder content. But realistically speaking no company will do it. You push too much and people say its too hard and needs to be nerfed. You nerf it to cater to the casual crowd and the hardcore will complain. No one will ever be 100% happy with a game. If you don't like it find one that suits you better. No harm done and I'm sure most won't miss you.
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    Last edited by Ariyn; 09-18-2013 at 06:15 AM.

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    Usagi Yojimbo
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    Hyperion
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    People seem to forget, that this game stops at lvl 99. Lvl 50 is not the final player experience.

    Just wait for it man. The game just came out. This time next year, there is going to be a lot more crazy things to play with.

    And there is a lot to do now.
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