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  1. #11
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    I agree that healers should know this... but I can imagine seeing the need for heals before the next pull, and assuming the tank will WAIT until everyone tops off before pulling. There may be some shared responsibility here.

    I'm guessing this is WAI, and it seems like a challanging mechanic, not sure square should just nerf it.


    ***edit I don't expect healers to magically know the second they get regen, I do expect them to figure it out after 1 or 2 pulls, and then stop doing it.
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    Last edited by Simaril; 09-16-2013 at 11:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simaril View Post
    I agree that healers should know this...
    I needed to be told this; the only other mmo I played was FFXI and this was not the case in that game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coberst View Post
    I needed to be told this; the only other mmo I played was FFXI and this was not the case in that game.
    Eh don't feel bad. This wasn't the case in *any* of the old school mmos. Its wow kiddies "common knowledge" i guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shmashed View Post
    Eh don't feel bad. This wasn't the case in *any* of the old school mmos. Its wow kiddies "common knowledge" i guess.
    WoW's overheals do not generate threat, but good on you for insulting them anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodSp3c View Post
    this is like basic healing 101 - what noob doesn't know this? lol
    People from wow, that's who.
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Is regen really that powerful?

    Good tanks should know to click it off? I was thinking good tanks should not have a problem grabbing stuff even with regen ticking. Maybe I'm too low level to know the real fights...is it a serious problem, that regen at level 50?
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    Seems everything agro the healer first whether you do anything or not. But you should wait for the tank to grab all the mobs before you cast anything. Even on yourself or other party members. My regen tic 200+ sometimes in the 300+ with divine seal. That's strong. I usually wait for stone skin to break before casting but if the tank has regen on before you get in agro range, like from the end of the previous fight. doesn't seem to effect hate toward the healer. Right before a pull your asking for trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accolades View Post
    People from wow, that's who.
    haha good point!
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    My comment had nothing to do with WOW or other MMORPGS. It has everything to with paying attention to the consequences of your actions. If you cast regen on the tank before the pull, and the mob goes directly for you before you cast cure, you should be able to figure out that regen before the pull generates aggro.



    PSA from simaril: The WOW hate in this game is rediculous. It had huge subscription, so chances are many of us played it. Would you rather talk about Phantasy Star Online for Dreamcast? Everquest Online Adventures for PS2? Bashing previous MMOs is like talking trash about your ex-wife or ex-girlfriend... it makes YOU lok bad more than the thing you're bashing.
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    If I'm running with either of my two tank friends I can leave Regen running on them through the entire instance, without an issue of threat being directed towards me. Now given I won't do that with a tank I've never played with. ∩( ・ω・)∩
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