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    Many terms are also straight from ancient history:
    In early Dungeons and Dragons, you would roll the dice to determine your character's stats.
    Items or abilities that have a fixed chance of activating an additional effect are termed proc. The term is from some of the first Multi-User Dungeons, text based online RPGs, which called them spec_proc for Special Procedure.

    I generally don't care what terms people have for these things, but the ones I tend to use are Character, Tank, Tell, and Raise. I often differentiate DPS between melee, ranged, and casters. I have never heard of 'mez,' and the effect to which Archellion proscribes it is what I've always known as sleep. I've always used whatever term the game uses to describe a game-supported association of players - Free Companies in FFXIV. Patrols may also be pats, and threat and hate are interchangeable; aggro is only something that happens when a monster begins attacking a new target.

    Specifically in this game, I've taken to calling stuns interrupts instead, as that's all they seem to be good for.
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    Last edited by Livilda; 09-14-2013 at 01:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FritoBandito View Post
    I bet you also think people should be required to learn English to live in the United States, huh?


    Actually Yes. Just as I would learn French if I lived in France.

    I was required to learn English in order to live in America.
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    Last edited by Crystallus; 09-14-2013 at 01:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopuno View Post
    I like many others still call it DD or Damage Dealer, as DPS is what you do. Not what you are. Always annoyed me, it's like the word "toon".
    ^

    I concur.
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    When the world was young, the Sun bestowed upon me his crown; always will I light your darkest hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrayL View Post
    Hi, I'm Japanese player. sorry to my poor English.

    I have heard "attaker" or "damage dealer" as damage sauce role.
    But that role is called "DPS" at FF14. "DPS" means Damage Per Second, it's a measure of attackpower, not role name, I think.
    From when did it come to say so in English ?
    In Final Fantasy XI we called it Damage Dealer not DPS. I think in WoW calling people DPS was a thing and then people brought it to ARR but its really poor english. Remember that in 1.0 FFXIV no one was called a DPS. I myself never call Damage Dealers DPS because its poor english.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndigoHawk View Post
    FFXIV has players with different MMO backgrounds and terms.
    I try to update my terminology if the new terminology is better. I prefer using generic and simple terms.
    ...etc....
    This is nice but the confusion with this is that people from other games bring terms from...lets say... WoW and demand people in FFXIV to learn WoW terms when these type of mechanics have their own terms that were named by the devs in FFXIV. Why should we have to learn terms from other games to understand people in this game? Not everyone has played WoW, Rift, or Everquest. Many that play FFXIV ARR have only played FFXI and FFXIV 1.0.

    If I'm not mistaken WoW isn't an international game in that it does not cater to all regions like the Final Fantasy MMO's do so this may be why Japanese players can not understand people who use terms from games like WoW in FFXIV. I'm just trying to put myself in the OP's shoes..
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazaran View Post
    In Final Fantasy XI and some others that are older it was always the proper term DD (Damage Dealer)>

    DPS was only used to specify gear attributes and damage per second totals.

    It started to be incorrectly used by younger gamers who didn't understand terms correctly and changed from there, a large amount in WOW.
    Hate to break it to you but DPS being used for "Damage Dealers" is older than FFXI. It didn't begin with WoW.
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    Pretty sure the DPS thing began in EQ, or possibly even before EQ, then traveled from there to WoW. It did not start in WoW. WoW is just very widely played in the MMO world so everything is automatically WoW's fault. >.>

    Mes/Mez is actually also an EQ term which stems from the word Mesmerize which was a type of CC they used which worked very much like sleep tends to do in FF games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uldi View Post
    It's been at least 6 years since 'DPS' has replaced 'DD'
    Only in the games you played. I played FFXI from release until 2011 and never saw melee classes referred to as "dps" with the rare exception of the random WoW vet that would wander haplessly into Vanadiel and begin shouting for a party and referring to his/herself as a "dps". That was usually quickly followed by torches, pitchforks, and demands that the individual remove themselves back to WoW. Calling a DD "dps" never bothered me enough to respond to its use but I always did feel it was used inappropriately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Begeta View Post
    Only in the games you played. I played FFXI from release until 2011 and never saw melee classes referred to as "dps" with the rare exception of the random WoW vet that would wander haplessly into Vanadiel and begin shouting for a party and referring to his/herself as a "dps". That was usually quickly followed by torches, pitchforks, and demands that the individual remove themselves back to WoW. Calling a DD "dps" never bothered me enough to respond to its use but I always did feel it was used inappropriately.
    I still disagree. I do healing but I am a heal based class. A damage dealer does dps but is a dps based class. It's just as accurate as any other term. Just like people who use "Heals" instead of "Healer."
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    Does it matter we all get what we are doing and who we want in our party, call it what you want, damn what a topic
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