WAR self-healing is unaffected by +heal% and Foresight gives ~5% mitigation

[Wangstrong]

Just thought I'd clear up some misconceptions that come up constantly in recent discussions.

First of all, the warrior self-healing abilities are all unaffected by Convalesence and the bonus healing from Wrath stacks. It seems only healing spells cast on you by others are affected by the +heal% mechanic.

Convalescence test, note that you get exactly 300% of the damage dealt by Inner Beast and exactly 25% of the damage dealt while Bloodbath is active despite having a bonus healing effect.

Secondly, Foresight is officially the worst defensive cooldown in the game. It gives approximately 5% mitigation. I've tested this twice, once at level 40ish with about 400 unbuffed defense and later at level 50 with about 700, which is more or less what you have in the endgame as each tier of armor only gives maybe two more defense per item.

Level 40ish Foresight test

Level 50 Foresight test


So can people please stop claiming that warrior defensive cooldowns are good and that Bloodbath and Storm's Path are great if you stack healing bonuses?

[Wangstrong]

Also note that Foresight gives only physical mitigation. Like I said, by far the worst defensive cooldown in the entire game.

[Rufio]

Very nice study, I love tanking on my WAR but from what I've been reading we are not viable end game, SE will probably adjust down the line, if they don't I'll just switch to PLD, it is not my fav job but I'd rather be able to be included in a group and actually do something than being told my job sucks

[hola]

did i ask more than we should get?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...with-PLD%21%21

[Rufio]

did i ask more than we should get?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...with-PLD%21%21

That list is full of awesome, but then pallies would cry that we were OP, which we would be

[Vod]

did i ask more than we should get?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...with-PLD%21%21

Giving warriors rampart would be beyond retarded. Improving your self heals would be the way to go, because if you have mitigation, self heals, and bigger hp pools, why bring a paladin?

[hola]

because if you have mitigation,

my a@@ whopping 5% mitigation to physical dmg ONLY.

i dont even remember how many moves endgame bosses do that could put you in danger are physical dmg, because there are almost NONE.

[Lharz]

because you picked the wrong class.

You just admitted that WAR is underpowered, compared to PLD. Contradiction in its greatest splendor.

[Heroicbandit]

Ouch. Good findings. I hope they take a look because I really enjoy the class. The abilities should be brought in line with PLD tanking abilities but I seriously pray to Halone that they don't homogenize us.

[Hachiko]

I thought this was common knowledge. Also it's worth noting that the "leech" heals from Inner Beast and Blood Bath and Storm's Eye also generate 0 enmity.

So then have foresight buffed, and stop trying to get my class nerfed. I'm sick of you wow kiddies always crying to nerf others, because you picked the wrong class.

How would giving WAR rampart be getting PAL nerfed?

And why even admit to the fact that WAR is the "wrong class?" Doesn't that obviously mean they need some buffs?

Aside from that, buffing Foresight would not just be a WAR buff it would also be a PAL buff since they can cross skill it.

Even though it should be buffed, honestly be at least 20% physical reduction seeing as how it's almost exactly the same as Rampart other than the fact that it only applies to physical damage. But that would put Paladins even further ahead as well. Kind of ridiculous.