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    Player
    Altheras's Avatar
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    Yuyaki Chibiaki
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    Anti Gil Seller Ideas to help the future task force and help annoyed players!

    Firstly, the fastest way to make an annoying gil seller leave you alone is to blacklist them. This can be difficult when they are spamming super fast as it's hard to right click their name. On this front, I would suggest a small forced delay between posts in public channels. Not a huge wait, but a small one, maybe a 3-5 seconds.
    Additionally, I'm sure that this has been suggested previously, but a right click + add to blacklist option would be great!

    For the anti RMT task force have some way that you guys can collect data on who is blacklisted. Maybe use a tally system. This system could flag accounts who have been put on a large amount of blacklists. Once a character has been put on 100+ blists the account is flagged to be investigated. I wouldn't suggest an instant ban because it's always possible it's just a troll... but then who really wants to keep those either?

    Please Like or comment and suggest your own ideas to help out with the RMT problem!
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    Pimomo Pimo
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    Agree here, just had my first dose of serious gilseller spam today, it makes reading chat in cities nigh impossible. A couple sec delay between shouts (in cities only, maybe?) would be very handy. And definately need a right click block option. It doesn't help that their shouts take up an entire standard chatbar space either.
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    Conradus Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pimomo View Post
    Agree here, just had my first dose of serious gilseller spam today, it makes reading chat in cities nigh impossible. A couple sec delay between shouts (in cities only, maybe?) would be very handy. And definately need a right click block option. It doesn't help that their shouts take up an entire standard chatbar space either.
    When you scroll up the chat window, it stops autoscrolling. At that point it's easy to pick off the gil seller's name. Agreed that there really needs to be a blist option on the right-click menu.
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    Ispen Frostwyght
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    Should just do what wow does the reporting them also puts them on your ignore list. I would like better tools to ignore/report to be added alot of people the past couple of days and with actual names and not fdafdaf afasfaf so chances are they are people who've been hacked by the sellers.
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    I agree it could be easier to add folks to ignore, however /blist add <Name> also works. I use a macro to blacklist the last person to send me a tell for the ones that do that. For the shouters, I right click the name in the chatlog, select "send tell" and then left-arrow to /tell, delete it, and replace it with /blist add

    Always report the spammers you blacklist, as it will help to get them off the server. If we can keep them from making their 30 bucks back before the account is banned, it helps to keep their numbers down.

    I have recently noticed more gil spammers with non-random character names. I presume that these folks have either used a leveling service, or are hacked accounts. Either way, account security is your friend
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    Friel Wyndor
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    I think reporting would be much easier on the players and the GMs if we could go Right Click > Report This Message. The game then gathers all the relevant data automatically: server, character name, location, time & date, chat channel, message content, etc. All that data is filled out by the client itself, in a ready-to-use format that is easily sorted by the system and GMs on the other end. The player needs only to select the category of report they are sending (this could be used to report harassment, or other infractions), and voila -- the whole report is accurate, complete, comprehensive, and sent off in a few seconds.

    And of course, add an optional checkbox within that system for "Add This Player to Blacklist." There can also be an optional "Notes" text field if the players wishes to explain more complicated situations in further detail.


    Quote Originally Posted by Myrdyn_Wyldt View Post
    I agree it could be easier to add folks to ignore, however /blist add <Name> also works. I use a macro to blacklist the last person to send me a tell for the ones that do that. For the shouters, I right click the name in the chatlog, select "send tell" and then left-arrow to /tell, delete it, and replace it with /blist add
    OMG, thank you for posting this! I knew about the /blist add <r>, but for the /shout spammers I had been copy/pasting the names manually into the blacklist menu. This is much easier!

    Edit: Actually, I can't get this method to work. In fact, I have yet to get /blist add <Player Name> to return anything but an error message saying I can't do that. Am I doing it wrong??
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    Last edited by Fyrebrand; 09-11-2013 at 06:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    I think reporting would be much easier on the players and the GMs if we could go Right Click > Report This Message. The game then gathers all the relevant data automatically: server, character name, location, time & date, chat channel, message content, etc. All that data is filled out by the client itself, in a ready-to-use format that is easily sorted by the system and GMs on the other end. The player needs only to select the category of report they are sending (this could be used to report harassment, or other infractions), and voila -- the whole report is accurate, complete, comprehensive, and sent off in a few seconds.
    Wow, it's my doppleganger!

    Great minds really think alike, because I would definitely prefer to see something like this. It's similar to how it's handled it World of Warcraft. You right-click the name in the chat log, and there is a 'report spam' option. You are then given a popup that confirms you really want to report them for spamming. When you click yes, the report is sent and they are automatically blocked.

    The problem with just blacklisting is it only helps us. It doesn't help SE by reporting the offender. However, until they make an easier way (instead of asking us to go through the help desk menus and filling out a report), a lot of people just won't bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    Edit: Actually, I can't get this method to work. In fact, I have yet to get /blist add <Player Name> to return anything but an error message saying I can't do that. Am I doing it wrong??
    Try /blist add "Person's Name". That method always works for me.
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    Shig Kalm
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    10 second chat cooldown across ALL public channels. This include shout and yell currently. If RMT continue to be a huge issue, even allowing us to right click a name and have a 'report RMT/bot' option that sends an automatic report and blacklist would be amazing. I think there should be one GM per server dedicated to responding to these calls 24 hrs/day until they start to die down. You'll put so much fatigue on the RMTs by instantly banning the botters, hackers and shouters that their income just won't outweigh their need to but additional copies.

    And please feel free to ban every single person that player has traded gil with, the gil buyers as well, they are an equal part of the problem and I harbor no sympathy if they get banned.
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    Julie Nymphiel
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    /blist add <r>
    adds the last person who messaged you to the Blist.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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