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  1. #261
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    Bustaballs Bbot
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    I actively study economics. I'll be happy to have an economic debate with you anytime but for now let me make these points. You are obviously clueless and have poor reading comprehension. People seem to keep joining both of the topics of making personal money vs gil generation overall. I addressed both of these topics. You are making endless assumptions based on ZERO evidence. You have NO clue how much gil is actually generated. SE DOES. If it really was as bad as you say, the economy of the marketplace and the actions of each player would reflect that. SE obviously can tell how much gil fluctuates through the economy. Until SE comes out with a statement saying that more gil is going out than coming in and they will make adjustments accordingly, quit making baseless assumptions. They just make you and everyone else here look stupid.
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  2. #262
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    If you're so worried about the cost of upkeep, crafting and gathering classes can accommodate this. It's not like NPCs are the only option. If gil was pouring out as quickly as you say, everything on the marketplace would be going down in price dramatically and crafters would be shouting their cheap repair services by now (like white mage teleports in FFXI).
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  3. #263
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    Edda Menubrea
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    Quote Originally Posted by busta View Post
    If you're so worried about the cost of upkeep, crafting and gathering classes can accommodate this. It's not like NPCs are the only option. If gil was pouring out as quickly as you say, everything on the marketplace would be going down in price dramatically and crafters would be shouting their cheap repair services by now (like white mage teleports in FFXI).
    It's not an issue yet because of the inflation caused by levelling. Once quests dry up the inflation vs. deflation is going to take a massive peak in negative direction. There are hardly any gil fountains in this game, while plenty of ways to get rid of it. Surely as someone who studies economics you understand the implications on the economy when a bunch of money goes *poof* in a rapid rate, without any means of replenishing it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Not sure why people are already complaining about this.

    I'm sure that the gilsellers will be making enough gil to cause inflation soon enough.
    The only way RMT could cause inflation is if they level alts over and over, otherwise they are just circulating the existing funds already in the economy, which if done over the market board removes 5 % of money with every trade.
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    Last edited by Menubrea; 09-10-2013 at 09:49 AM.

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    Not sure why people are already complaining about this.

    I'm sure that the gilsellers will be making enough gil to cause inflation soon enough.
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    N'jei Rinlak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiruru53 View Post
    FATES do not generate gil due to repairs. crafting does not as there's dungeon gear easily obtainable.
    Not to mention the act of crafting actively degrades the durability of your equiped gear at a high rate of speed. It's kind of ludicrous that if I sit down with a needle and thread, everything I'm wearing including said needle degrades until it breaks. As if it weren't expensive to craft already.
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  6. #266
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    Meta Vahn
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    Less and less players joining groups better do something before its realm UNborn
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  7. #267
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    Chronos Raum
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    I think we should be able to gather Dark matter as well as buy it. We shouldn't be able to sell it though.
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  8. #268
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Also crafters can't repair other peoples gear. This was removed from the game. I dunno how many people keep missing this but it's been said in like every thread.
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    Therielis Darkwish
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    Quote Originally Posted by busta View Post
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    other character can't repair your gear, u have to have the crafting class on your own or use the npc repair (that is why crafter aren't spamming to repair at cheaper prices)

    also since dark matter can't be gathered anymore u have 2 way to get it: buy it at 350 gil per piece (r4 dark matter that is wht u need at lvl 50) or 5k company seal for 2 at grand company vendor.
    The 350 per piece of dark matter makes it convenient only if your equip is at 0% but since u can't change class during duty u have to choose to repair before entering (so spending money on the npc or wasting dark matter) or run part of the duty with equip broken because u can't repair it on the fly
    About buyng it with seal it is clear that the time u need farming fate to have enough dark matter will also be enough for your equip to logorate.
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    Bynder Whitehowler
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    Is it just me or are the popular threads in the right panel of the main forum page now tailored to only show "approved" threads?
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