titan hard (hard for high latency)

[Jynxii]

There is no way out for this problem. To those who said tgey dont have such problem, well good for you. I know ppl that suffer from this problem.

So people with similar (higher) latency and are managing are either wrong, lying, or just straight up lucky? I guess some groups that reliably clear HM Titan and sit on higher latency must be using up all the luck from the rest of the players. Please keep telling yourself this; it would be unfair if you had to actually adapt to your situation.

As a side note: Square, please don't dumb down boss mechanics because people 'lag' and fail to actually attempt to better themselves or their tactics to complete the encounters, even though they suffer from the 'impossible' 200ms threshold. Pretty sure every other MMO over the last 5-6 years have catered for this crowd already and some of us actually like the challenge.

[HumsterMKX]

So people with similar (higher) latency and are managing are either wrong, lying, or just straight up lucky? I guess some groups that reliably clear HM Titan and sit on higher latency must be using up all the luck from the rest of the players. Please keep telling yourself this; it would be unfair if you had to actually adapt to your.....

They did it. Good for them. They did on high latency more power to them. They won by luck, skills, not my problem at all.

But I do have problems with ppl claiming latency is not an issue and everyone else that said otherwise should learn to play and shut up.

Reminds me of 1.0 Ifrit extreme fights. Ppl still say latency is not an issue even after SE said it is.

[Jynxii]

Ppl still say latency is not an issue even after SE said it is.

I'm not sure where people claimed latency wasn't an issue? When a game is designed to be challenging at lower latency, of course it'll pose a problem at higher latencies. There are two issues as a whole, and one doesn't apply to you (people on ~100ms saying latency makes the mechanics impossible), however attributing 100% of failing something to latency, unless you're sitting on 400+ms, and I'd even be generous and say 300+ms, is removing any responsibility on the players part. It also ignores that anything can be done to counteract or balance the latency (I can move into AoE as they 'go off', wouldn't be able to do that on 30ms). You have to work harder, and that sucks and is unfair or whatever, but can you magically change the latency? No, so you do what you can to deal with it. Alternatively you can complain about it and not clear content; To quote you, 'not my problem'.

[HumsterMKX]

I'm not sure where people claimed latency wasn't an issue? When a game is designed to be challenging at lower latency, of course it'll pose a problem at higher latencies...
complain about it and not clear content; To quote you, 'not my problem'.

And what makes you think OP didnt try to compensate for lag? You played with him or others that complained?

O ya op, forgotten to give you a heads up, look at your digital clock home, focus on the time it takes for 1 sec to pass, try and create an artifical timeframe. After you left an AOE zone time the distance in which you still get hit after you left that zone. Now use that timeframe to your advantage.

You can try out the timing by fight mobs that does AOE, Garleans, those lizard snake thingy, etc.

It helps a lot for me back in 1.0. It should help. Dont wait for the problem to go away, because it wouldnt, lessen by some extent yes. But going away, you might need to move next to the servers

[Jynxii]

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Sorry can you point out the part where he gave any inclination of doing so? "having more than 100ms makes the fight impossible, AoE goes off in 2seconds and you have 1second to react because of lag" is essentially his post. Which makes it sound like he waited for visual confirmation before even attempting to react/move.

Again, I never said these guys are bad, but some of us have been dealing with the latency 'issue' for a long time, and have made concious decisions to work at, and adapt to it. Does it make us better players? Maybe, but that isn't what we're discussing. It is further insult to suggest 100ms is the cutoff point for when things become 'impossible'.

Latency is a factor, but again, unless you're sitting on something ridiculously high like 300-400+, it is not the only factor in play that is making an essentially predictable mechanic, impossible, especially as there are 'tactics' to manage it a little.

[Rillifane]

They did it. Good for them. They did on high latency more power to them. They won by luck, skills, not my problem at all.

So are you saying everything should be adjusted so bad players can complete it?

[HumsterMKX]

So are you saying everything should be adjusted so bad players can complete it?

And what makes you think they are bad players?

[Azrael]

So are you saying everything should be adjusted so bad players can complete it?

lol @ people like you quoting single lines.

[Rillifane]

And what makes you think they are bad players?

Because you claimed it's not a problem that skillful players can dodge AoE's their-fore by logic that bad people are being hit by them so things need to be adjusted so the bads can get out of them.

lol @ people like you quoting single lines.

lol@ you too because the rest of his post wasn't even worth quoting at all. I got to love how people who have fibre optic are claiming about having AoE problems on every fight yet me with basic ADSL going through a copper phone line can dodge them, it sounds like people need to consult their ISP's and make sure the quality of service being provided for your speeds is being kept top notice or you aren't being affected by this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...P2P-throttling

[Azrael]

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lol @ you talking about you something you don't even know.
Who told you I got fibre optic? No I don't.
Do you know my ISP? No you don't.
Do you actually know how much I ping on other MMOs? No you don't, I ping much better in any other MMO.

Do you live in europe? Did you kill Titan?