Square, Don't let the Community ruin this game

[Kahri]

LOL. Then why should you expect to have slow runs when using DF? It's random, and the group goes with whatever mindset the people you got grouped with have.

LOL. Then why should you expect to have speed runs when using DF? It's random, and the group goes with whatever mindset the people you got grouped with have.

There. Corrected that for you.

Still, I want is SE to take an active role is enticing players, not forcing or penalizing them.

Agreed. This is not about forcing people to do one or the other - but enabling an option *before* you enter the dungeon that makes it clear what the expectations of other group members are.

This can only help. And there is no reason for either preference, speed or not, to be against it.

[Etherite]

It's funny. There are people here supporting my topic saying that duty finder isn't the only way to find groups.

There are people against it saying the same thing.

There are a few people, like myself, looking for SE not to enforce either method but to encourage trash kills, with rewards, not because of penalties.

I will say one thing though.

On one hand, if you're looking for a group that's experienced enough and willing to do a speed run, you should form the group from your friends, and not because it differs from my argument, but because you know your friends, their talents, and if they're capable of one shotting the whole place in 20 minutes.

Still, I want is SE to take an active role is enticing players, not forcing or penalizing them.

Good opinion. I really hope SE looks into it for ya.

[Xikaz]

I'm sure this has been mentioned, but I didn't read the whole thread.

I don't know why you're surprised people who are running endgame dungeons a week after release are trying to rush through them, they obviously rushed through the rest of the game to get there.

This will become less of an issue as the people who don't play 24/7 get to endgame.

[Etherite]

LOL. Then why should you expect to have speed runs when using DF? It's random, and the group goes with whatever mindset the people you got grouped with have.

There. Corrected that for you.



Agreed. This is not about forcing people to do one or the other - but enabling an option *before* you enter the dungeon that makes it clear what the expectations of other group members are.

This can only help. And there is no reason for either preference, speed or not, to be against it.

You're really annoying. Lol. I bet you annoy a lot of the people you play with.

[Kahri]

You're really annoying. Lol. I bet you annoy a lot of the people you play with.

Ditto, Babe. Ditto.

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Edit : I just stooped to your level and insulted your character instead of responding in a civil fashion, and that wasn't a good choice on my part. I should've instead said something along the lines of...

"Just because you get annoyed doesn't mean the person who annoyed you is annoying. Disagreement with your opinion, while being an annoying situation, does not mean the other person are themselves 'annoying'. Perhaps instead ask yourself why it is you allowed yourself to become annoyed?"

[Malen]

I think this is something that will correct itself in the mid-term, simply because more of the more casual players will start to filter towards the top. Unfortunately, in the long run it will probably end up like WoW, where every instance from level 15 is expected to be a speed run. I really don't know if there's a good way around it other than trying to find a FC that can accommodate your needs. I can't think of any reasonable solution SE can do game side.

[Ceol]

I'm not sure why you think the only people wanting to do speed runs are legacy players. Legacy players are just as new to the dungeons as everyone else.

The people you're seeing aren't all legacy players; they're "get to the last 1% ASAP" players that jump from MMO to MMO. They did the same thing in GW2, they're doing it here, and they'll do it in EQN. Give it a month and they'll be tired of making threads complaining about NOT ENOUGH CONTENT!!1 in the game's first week of release and leave.

Then you'll be stuck with the actual legacy players, who are an awesome group.

[Kahri]

I'm not sure why you think the only people wanting to do speed runs are legacy players. Legacy players are just as new to the dungeons as everyone else.

The people you're seeing aren't all legacy players; they're "get to the last 1% ASAP" players that jump from MMO to MMO. They did the same thing in GW2, they're doing it here, and they'll do it in EQN. Give it a month and they'll be tired of making threads complaining about NOT ENOUGH CONTENT!!1 in the game's first week of release and leave.

Then you'll be stuck with the actual legacy players, who are an awesome group.

Hear hear.

[Moochan]

Your view of the world through rose-colored glasses conflicts with my own personal view. SE should regulate you people. See how easy that is?

There are 7800 people on a server at once. Not everyone is like you. Learn to deal with that fact. Or you could always join a religious institution, they like conformity.

[Devilair]

So you'd punish people doing things efficiently and quickly to get what they want? Unless they gate each section and force you to kill everything speed running is going to be here permanently. If you don't want to speed run get some people from your server together who're like minded and run things normally. That's your solution to what you find to be a problem.

People like you and these idiot speedrunners ruin games, just saying.