Duty finder is a disaster

[Kanzer]

So you utilize Duty Finder exactly TWO times, and then come complain on the forum that it's an utter disaster? You're the reason for my migraines...

[Hanabira]

My issue is a combination of things. Youre running with randoms that are probably first timers.. which is fine, but some players are just plain bad. When you try to tell them how to correct it (ie. the gla that never used flash to hold hate on more than 1 target when we are fighting 4) they dont respond. why? because they are paying attention to the BATTLE log. No matter what you do, what you say, you cant get them to switch from the battle tab to the chat tab. this is a SERIOUS problem.

then to further the problem, after getting killed 5 times because the person in the battle log cant get the directions to follow, you cant kick out the player to get a better one! seriously? so if you have someone who doesnt know what they are doing, and not watching the chat log... your only option is to leave yourself? but then it took me over an HOUR to even get into the dungeon! and i dont want to sit through that again all 3 of these issues amplify each other.

This is especially an issue in puzzle-like battles, such as the bomb/slime fight in copperbell. i had to trick our tank into getting blown up and killed by the bomb just so he would stop attacking it. and no matter how many times we screamed, he never got the message because of the battle tab. and of course he swapped back to chat tab to yell at me for killing him even though i spent 15 minutes trying to tell him to stop hitting the bomb

[Opheliona]

That's the risk of the duty finder? I've gotten some bad players, only one of which didn't listen but the other people I've had were willing to learn and listen. What's wrong, however, is people expecting this to be FFXI 2.0; you can't expect everyone to know what they're doing, especially if they've never run the dungeon before.

I do think SE is being a little too "carebear" though, like you can't even use /tells (which is better than say...accidentally embarrassing the bad player in /p), or vote to kick players. They could even have it to where you can't kick players if there's loot up if that's what they're worried about, but I dunno.

[SmokeyTheSequel]

This was the conversation that took place in the DF I was in.

[ArashiDaigon]

I think I've only met 1 person in DF that wasn't "nice". The thing that was hilarious about it, was in Brayflox died on first boss, the person stated that we all stink and left. We immediately got a replacement, who knew it was DPS. Had 0 problems after that... so I find it funny, because everyone was willing to work together and attempt different things to get better. We beat the dungeon and had a blast doing it, the only downside is the good damage dealerss that were there are not on our server, but there is always light with using Duty Finder.

[A-Shock]

Why black out names? Call them out and let everyone know who the jerks are and what server they're on (if you know)..

[SmokeyTheSequel]

Why black out names? Call them out and let everyone know who the jerks are and what server they're on (if you know)..

Because it is against the forums TOS...

[CyrilLucifer]

This is a problem both of the system for not checking if you are actually geared (You could still queue to a hard mode primal with lvl 15 greens) and of the people queuing themselves. I understand that people want to keep going and get shinies all the time, but man.. Before queueing for something like that do a little introspection and gear check yourself. If you are not ready, go farm some more gear, otherwise you will be wasting your time and 7 others'.

Dear God, gear checks are literally the last thing I want in this game. I cannot think of something I want less.

Gear does not indicate player quality. It never has in any game I've played; you can be carried through a lot of the content in XIV, it wouldn't do much here, either. I agree that people need to spend some time gearing before they attempt the harder fights, but gear checks are terrible.

[Noata]

If you have a problem just leave the party. There is no point in even entertaining the crappy players of the game, there are enough people out there to get a group without them. It is not like a game with a lack of players. if they are being unkind and are DPS, well they are a dime a dozen literally easily replaceable. Just leave. If you let them think it's okay they will just keep doing it.

The community is shaped by what people let others get away with. hold them accountable and after a while not being able to do a dungeon because people leave whenever they complain will become them shutting up so they can finish the dungeon. I find a lot of good people who end up being friends that I can do more content with by being picky about my groups. I don't tolerate the high and mighty, I am in it for fun not for some little anti social brat. they can go back to RPG's

[e90guy]

Duty finder is a last resort option for people who want to try out the game and don't have 4 minutes to find members. There's a great search function and hundreds of players willing to do any dungeon at all times on your own server

Exactly how do you do that? Let say I'm looking to find a group to do dungeon X how do you search for other members? Thanks